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Old 04-27-2007, 11:17 PM
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As for Sam P.....I like his chances to hit the board at a price. Along with having a deceptive race in his last at Santa Anita, he has a 10f-type pedigree.
Okay what am I missing? I guess it was blackthroat or coach Billick or someone who mentioned this earlier. What is the evidence that his form has been "darkened" or deceptive? I just see a slow horse. What do you see.
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Old 04-28-2007, 12:49 AM
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Okay what am I missing? I guess it was blackthroat or coach Billick or someone who mentioned this earlier. What is the evidence that his form has been "darkened" or deceptive? I just see a slow horse. What do you see.

I already said why I feel his form is somewhat darkened.
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:40 AM
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Okay what am I missing? I guess it was blackthroat or coach Billick or someone who mentioned this earlier. What is the evidence that his form has been "darkened" or deceptive? I just see a slow horse. What do you see.
Don't get me wrong....nobody is going to be confusing Sam P with Seattle Slew anytime soon. Is he a likely winner? No. BUT he will most likely be a HUGE price in the race and I think he will probably have a much better chance to hit the board than his odds indicate. Look at his race in the Robert Lewis and compare it to the top efforts of the top colts in the Derby. Other than Street Sense's BCJ, it compares rather nicely and yet, they will all be in the 4/1 - 10/1 range and he will most likely be MUCH higher than that.
Other aspects of Sam P. that interst me are:
He has an allowance win over the CD track defeating (among others) Chelokee.
His 5f work over the CD track on 4/23 was sharp.
He has a 10f-type pedigree.
He certainly won't be my top pick or anything, but as a live longshot.....he is interesting.

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Old 04-28-2007, 09:09 AM
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Don't get me wrong....nobody is going to be confusing Sam P with Seattle Slew anytime soon. Is he a likely winner? No. BUT he will most likely be a HUGE price in the race and I think he will probably have a much better chance to hit the board than his odds indicate. Look at his race in the Robert Lewis and compare it to the top efforts of the top colts in the Derby. Other than Street Sense's BCJ, it compares rather nicely and yet, they will all be in the 4/1 - 10/1 range and he will most likely be MUCH higher than that.
Other aspects of Sam P. that interst me are:
He has an allowance win over the CD track defeating (among others) Chelokee.
His 5f work over the CD track on 4/23 was sharp.
He has a 10f-type pedigree.
He certainly won't be my top pick or anything, but as a live longshot.....he is interesting.
All the same reasons I've been following him for months now (I LOVE the way he is bred too!) My biggest concern with him is he was a bit of a nutcase prior to the Santa Anita Derby..which is what brought him to Churchill earlier in the first place. I haven't heard word on whether they are taking the blinkers off of him or not.
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Old 04-28-2007, 01:21 PM
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All the same reasons I've been following him for months now (I LOVE the way he is bred too!) My biggest concern with him is he was a bit of a nutcase prior to the Santa Anita Derby..which is what brought him to Churchill earlier in the first place. I haven't heard word on whether they are taking the blinkers off of him or not.
Oh geesh, and the only picture I've seen of him in any of the Derby Galleries he is acting up:

http://www.horsephotos.com/watermark.jsp?photoID=57965
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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