Nobiz Like Showbiz

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

When the race first started my reaction was 'crap, he's being rank.' Tagg seemed happy with the ride and said as much but Bailey was critical of Cornelio for more than one trip on the horse. Does anybody agree with that assessment or is the horse just harder than Bailey's giving credit? I thought Tagg felt he was easier to train than Funny Cide but does that correlate into an easier horse to rate for the jockey necessarily? I figured you can't just say it was the blinkers if Cornelio's had problems in the past but I didn't register them so was Jerry seeing phantoms bad-rides?

As usual I think Bailey had it right. To me he wasn't so much saying that Corny doing something wrong, after all he won the race. I thought he was just pointing out that that same performance in the derby will not cut it and I agree. Like Bailey said, Corny has to find a way to get the horse to relax in the Derby, a tall order I think. If on derby day he has to strongly restrain him
for a mile, what do you think he will have left in the stretch?

I also am drawn to the horse, having liked his sire. He is such a nice looking colt and talented from the getgo. Problem is he has run at that same level six times now.

[outofthebox]

I thought the horse was a little headstrong, but not rank at all. At least Corn wasnt bouncing in the saddle or making the horse toss his head. He kept one hold of him and even got him to relax down the bs and dropped about 3/4 lengths back without giving up his spot on the rail. I credit his ride. Lets face it, weve seen other jocks take to much hold, then lose their position and it eventulally costs them the race. My overall opinion of this horse is that he hasnt improved one bit since his two year old year. He is game, he fights and shows up everytime, i give him credit for that. But im looking for just a little more from him, and so far havent seen it..

[byalip]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I thought the horse was a little headstrong, but not rank at all. At least Corn wasnt bouncing in the saddle or making the horse toss his head. He kept one hold of him and even got him to relax down the bs and dropped about 3/4 lengths back without giving up his spot on the rail. I credit his ride. Lets face it, weve seen other jocks take to much hold, then lose their position and it eventulally costs them the race. My overall opinion of this horse is that he hasnt improved one bit since his two year old year. He is game, he fights and shows up everytime, i give him credit for that. But im looking for just a little more from him, and so far havent seen it..

The discussion brings back memories of War Emblem and his headstrong troubles. When he didn't get his own way he quit. It looked lik Biz deferred to CV when he wrangled him off the lead on the backstretch. Tagg's got his work set out to develop Biz into a presser....maybe it'll work out.

[johnny pinwheel]

maybe, but i wouldn't hold my breath.i liked nobiz saturday, wouldn't bet him at 3-5 to win but the exacta was nice. i wouldn't bet any horse (AGS) that hides out in tampa. street sense is different because he used tampa as a race to come back in. after seeing how chilokee ran in the florida derby ,sightseeing was an absolute ridiculous overlay. the fact that nobiz ran headstrong saturday tells me hes in big trouble going 1 1/4, 4 weeks from now unless he can relax. especially if theres the usual bunch of horses that have no shot and go 46 or under to the half, if nobiz gets sucked into that well ,rip up those chalky tickets. its one reason i'm glad he won saturday because the week before the derby he'll be the best thing since sliced bread. the other thing is aqueduct seems to be his favorite place, can he carry his form to another surface? i havn't seen it yet. favorites and the derby, well its not a good prospect.

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

after seeing how chilokee ran in the florida derby ,sightseeing was an absolute ridiculous overlay.....

Yes. Actually his last two races, he broke from the 9 hole and 11 hole at GP. THose posts are bad and he lost two races by less than 2 len. To Chelokee and Delightful Kiss both pretty good horses. In the Chelokee race I think he was ahead in mid stretch and then got caught near the wire after running wide most of the way.

So, it's not like the horse is suddenly putting it all together, looking at his ground loss in the last two it looks like sat. result is a good reflection of how good he is.