GS Sat not as good as thought??

[JJP]

So now English Channel will be running against a couple of Illinois breds (Fort Prado and Mystery Giver). Nobody can accuse Todd of being overly ambitious here.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by JJP

So now English Channel will be running against a couple of Illinois breds (Fort Prado and Mystery Giver). Nobody can accuse Todd of being overly ambitious here.

Maybe they actually feel they need another week or maybe they don't want to risk losing to the horse they feel they should have won the Eclipse over. You would think it's a freeroll for English Channel, as theoretically he's supposed to lose, but apparently they are passing. It just seems so much easier to stay home...especially for a prep race in erly February.

I thought BTW had a great idea about having two finish lines for route races as they do at Keeneland to give those with outside posts a fairer shot, instead of the quick run to the turn at 1 1/8 races. With all the wait and scratch if you draw an outside post mentality, why hasn't this idea been discussed/tried ? Now that SNS drew the 12 spot and went down, how many other trainers will go elsewhere instead of the chance of drawing an outside post at GP ? BTW, have you gotten any traction from your idea ?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by point given

I thought BTW had a great idea about having two finish lines for route races as they do at Keeneland to give those with outside posts a fairer shot, instead of the quick run to the turn at 1 1/8 races. With all the wait and scratch if you draw an outside post mentality, why hasn't this idea been discussed/tried ? Now that SNS drew the 12 spot and went down, how many other trainers will go elsewhere instead of the chance of drawing an outside post at GP ? BTW, have you gotten any traction from your idea ?

Nobody listens to me.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Nobody listens to me.

yeah, i know, not even at Siro's

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by point given

yeah, i know, not even at Siro's

Especially there.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by point given

I thought BTW had a great idea about having two finish lines for route races as they do at Keeneland to give those with outside posts a fairer shot, instead of the quick run to the turn at 1 1/8 races. With all the wait and scratch if you draw an outside post mentality, why hasn't this idea been discussed/tried ? Now that SNS drew the 12 spot and went down, how many other trainers will go elsewhere instead of the chance of drawing an outside post at GP ? BTW, have you gotten any traction from your idea ?

I don't know how seriously this was discussed, but it is an impossibility because of Gulfstream's already short stretch. Gulfstream's full stretch is 898 feet. If you start and finish 9 furlong races at the 1/16th pole, you'd have a stretch measuring a whopping 568 feet, that's even shorter than 5/8 mile tracks like Fairplex and Los Al.

NT

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't know how seriously this was discussed, but it is an impossibility because of Gulfstream's already short stretch. Gulfstream's full stretch is 898 feet. If you start and finish 9 furlong races at the 1/16th pole, you'd have a stretch measuring a whopping 568 feet, that's even shorter than 5/8 mile tracks like Fairplex and Los Al.

NT

You're probably right but I would be curious to know the stretch distance at Keeneland when they use the first finish line there?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You're probably right but I would be curious to know the stretch distance at Keeneland when they use the first finish line there?

According to DRF Track Information the Keeneland stretch is 1,174 feet. That would mean the 1 1/16 mile races with the shortened stretch go 844 feet.

Oaklawn also uses the 1/16th pole start for one mile races and their shortened stretch goes 825 feet, 1,155 normally.

NT

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

According to DRF Track Information the Keeneland stretch is 1,174 feet. That would mean the 1 1/16 mile races with the shortened stretch go 844 feet.

Oaklawn also uses the 1/16th pole start for one mile races and their shortened stretch goes 825 feet, 1,155 normally.

NT

Thanks. I hadn't realized Gulfstream had such a short stretch. Probably had to make room for a Starbucks or two.