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tycharles01 01-29-2007 05:32 PM

GS Sat not as good as thought??
 
Well it seems the Donn wont be that good. Premium Tap is out and Chatain might be out to unless he gets a good post

Wow owners must not like those big 2nd and 3rd place checks

EC a no go in the turf:( Must be because his rabbit cant run!!!

However the Bull looks GREAT with Nobiz,Scat Daddy, and Drums of Thunder all going

POINTGIVEN1985 01-29-2007 05:57 PM

Disgusted
 
i am disgusted, i know barbaro died and it really hit me when i first herd the news, that horse was a champion and a fighter... but horse racing does go on and i was so pumped up about donn day this saturday now im not even sure if i want to go anymore. premium tap is likely out, chatain is likely out of the donn... english channel is also not running... these trainers ducking other horses in my opinion is pathetic, i loved chatain chances against invasor, and now with him and premium tap likely out your looking at something like 1-5 on invasor, a great race turning into just another race in my opinion.

lemoncrush 01-29-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycharles01
Well it seems the Donn wont be that good. Premium Tap is out and Chatain might be out to unless he gets a good post

Wow owners must not like those big 2nd and 3rd place checks

EC a no go in the turf:( Must be because his rabbit cant run!!!

However the Bull looks GREAT with Nobiz,Scat Daddy, and Drums of Thunder all going

I noticed there's also a G1 Breeders Cup turf event later in Feb. at Gulfstream as well...I can see why maybe English Channel is pointing there.

That is dissapointing about Premium Tap...I think he had a shot if Invasor was using this strictly as a tune-up for Dubai.

blackthroatedwind 01-29-2007 06:01 PM

Apparently Beth's request earlier fell on deaf ears.

GPK 01-29-2007 06:04 PM

EC not running is no big surprise to be honest. Had to figure something was amiss when he has not been working much at all.

Coach Pants 01-29-2007 06:04 PM

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paisjpq 01-29-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Apparently Beth's request earlier fell on deaf ears.

wouldn't want me to get lazy

POINTGIVEN1985 01-29-2007 06:28 PM

im sorry i did not see this thread.. thats the truth its not a case of me doing this purposley i just read it on drf.com and got so mad i came here to post... im sorry ... did anyone else think chatain had a shot to beat invasor cause i thought he had a huge chance

blackthroatedwind 01-29-2007 06:31 PM

The connections said after the Hal's Hope they were far from certain about the Donn.

This horse just made his third career start the first week of his 4YO year, and it is the beginning of a long year, perhaps throwing him to the wolves immediately might not be the wisest move. It's a long year and there will be plenty of opportunities.

Oh, and no, he had next to no shot of beating Invasor.

Gander 01-29-2007 06:32 PM

did anyone else think chatain had a shot to beat invasor cause i thought he had a huge chance

No. I thought he was a horse who would take wise guy money is all. Big deal, he beats Sir Greeley and SNS. Doesnt make him a threat against Invasor.

I thought Premium Tap would have been a great bet in here.

tycharles01 01-29-2007 06:39 PM

Chatain is not OUT!!! Connections said they will enter him and see what kind of post he gets

Gander 01-29-2007 06:41 PM

He can always use the post position as an excuse.

Speaking of that, anybody really think the post position did SNS in on Sat?
I sure dont. Looked like a perfect trip to me and I thought for sure he was a winner on the far turn.

POINTGIVEN1985 01-29-2007 06:53 PM

i must be honest.... i feel invasor is very overated... there are 100 reassons why...first he beat no one at pimlico and then he beat no one at belmont ... then he wins the whitney and barley and i mean barley beats sun king... then he lays off and beats bernardini, now for ppl who knock bernardini and say he faced no one, i feel invasor faced less and in the breeders up bernardini was not himself hes under a ride, looks to be going backwards then finally kicks in and invasor bye no means crushed him in that spot.. im not saying hes not a good horse and i know this will now get alot of ppl posting that im crazy but thats just how i feel.

Gander 01-29-2007 06:56 PM

Invasor wouldnt have been that great back in the mid 90's but given the lack of any other really good older horses, well Charlie, I guess that makes him a star. I think hes pretty darn good but I wouldnt be surprised if he gets beat. Maybe not in the Donn because there isnt anyone really decent in there, but in Dubai for sure. Especially if Mccans Mojave ships to Dubai (ha ha, kidding).

bellsbendboy 01-29-2007 08:30 PM

Point Given, Lemon: English Channel got a bit sick and missed some time. He is a diminutive colt and will probably race at FG and pass on Dubai.

T#B good analysis right on.

BTW and Da hoss terrific job intimidating infrequent posters. BBB

stonegossard 01-29-2007 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i must be honest.... i feel invasor is very overated... there are 100 reassons why...first he beat no one at pimlico and then he beat no one at belmont ... then he wins the whitney and barley and i mean barley beats sun king... then he lays off and beats bernardini, now for ppl who knock bernardini and say he faced no one, i feel invasor faced less and in the breeders up bernardini was not himself hes under a ride, looks to be going backwards then finally kicks in and invasor bye no means crushed him in that spot.. im not saying hes not a good horse and i know this will now get alot of ppl posting that im crazy but thats just how i feel.


And I feel this might be the stupidest thing I have read in a long time...congrats.....

100 reasons? Give me 10....

Who last year was better than Invasor?

blackthroatedwind 01-29-2007 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
Point Given, Lemon: English Channel got a bit sick and missed some time. He is a diminutive colt and will probably race at FG and pass on Dubai.

T#B good analysis right on.

BTW and Da hoss terrific job intimidating infrequent posters. BBB


Let me be clear to you....you are a cheap shot artist with a superiority complex who has alienated people with your BS routine all over the web. You have fooled absolutely nobody on this site and offered nothing of value and only detracted from the value of this place.

No doubt this is yet another of your hit and run posts.

philcski 01-29-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
Point Given, Lemon: English Channel got a bit sick and missed some time. He is a diminutive colt and will probably race at FG and pass on Dubai.

T#B good analysis right on.

BTW and Da hoss terrific job intimidating infrequent posters. BBB

There's a 0% chance English Channel goes to FG. Where do you come up with this crap??


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