5/20 (PIM): Preakness 148: First Mission SCR

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by LITF

I had Blazing Seven’s on top today and it hurt seeing him not get up. A lot. Thought he had it.

However, whatever you think about Bob, there is almost zero chance National Treasure was juiced today. The absurdity at even the thought of bringing a horse less than 100% clean to his first Triple Crown race in two years is something even Bob’s pomposity couldn’t possibly fathom. A bad test for NT ends Bob. He knows that. There is no way that horse was juiced today.

The 49.5 half mile split allowed the re break. In this case it was just the trip. NT tripped out.

From a handicapping standpoint Mage is the bet back out of this race, no? Wish they would have moved early with Mage. Thought they would take that chance knowing how slow they’d go as opposed to waiting.

Fully agree that it’s almost zero chance that the winner was on anything for exactly the reasons you laid out.

[Dahoss]

Who said he was juiced?

I was told on this website that it was in my head when I opined that the horses that switched to Yakteen did not perform as well as they did in Baffert’s barn. They did not progress like a Baffert usually does.

Hard to argue with the results.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Who said he was juiced?

I was told on this website that it was in my head when I opined that the horses that switched to Yakteen did not perform as well as they did in Baffert’s barn. They did not progress like a Baffert usually does.

Hard to argue with the results.

Same horse for months on end..

[Dahoss]

Is 98 higher or lower than 95?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Kasept

And also meanwhile, G1 winner Doppelganger..

You previously selected Doppelganger as some sort of proof that what I was saying was wrong because he won a grade 1. Well….National Treasure just won the Preakness so….

And Doppelgänger is an even better example of what I’m talking about. Look at his numbers with Baffert, then Yakteen and now with Brittany “28% for the year” Russell. He’s run better for Baffert and Russell. Why is that?

This isn’t a slight on Yakteen. He’s a very good horseman. Baffert and Brittany must have better dentists.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You previously selected Doppelganger as some sort of proof that what I was saying was wrong because he won a grade 1. Well….National Treasure just won the Preakness so….

And Doppelgänger is an even better example of what I’m talking about. Look at his numbers with Baffert, then Yakteen and now with Brittany “28% for the year” Russell. He’s run better for Baffert and Russell. Why is that?

This isn’t a slight on Yakteen. He’s a very good horseman. Baffert and Brittany must have better dentists.

You realize Doppelganger is a 4yo now, right? That horses mature, potentially improving as they mature. (Not to mention that middle distance one-turning is likely his best trip).

I know nothing I suggest will convince you that Baffert, and I guess Russell too, aren't taking edges.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You realize Doppelganger is a 4yo now, right? That horses mature, potentially improving as they mature. (Not to mention that middle distance one-turning is likely his best trip).

I know nothing I suggest will convince you that Baffert, and I guess Russell too, aren't taking edges.

Respectfully, you didn’t think Servis was taking an edge either. And I feel like we had this same song and dance as it pertained to him. Before that it was Marty Wolfson. Maybe your friendship with these trainers clouds your judgment a bit.

Yes, I fully understand horses mature. Which is why I found it so odd you didn’t think it was strange that the Baffert horses who had moved to Yakteen were not maturing like Baffert runners normally do.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Is 98 higher or lower than 95?

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