Secret Oath

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

What was unfair about her win over SONGBIRD in the BC?

Songbird won the headbob, and they awarded the race to the second place hoss. Watch the replay, it’s clear that Songbird was in front on the wire. They would have showed the mirror image, if it showed Beholder won. Watch the slow motion replay, listen to JD Bailey, who then clammed up, awaiting the photo. It’s all there. Repeat after me inside the sixteenth pole 1-8-1-8-1......

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Songbird won the headbob, and they awarded the race to the second place hoss. Watch the replay, it’s clear that Songbird was in front on the wire. They would have showed the mirror image, if it showed Beholder won. Watch the slow motion replay, listen to JD Bailey, who then clammed up, awaiting the photo. It’s all there. Repeat after me inside the sixteenth pole 1-8-1-8-1......

Vic this is the kind of stupidity that derails actual dialogue on here.

Everytime Estrogen Dan enters a thread it immediately jumps the shark.

There’s like 3 things he’s passionate about. Songbird, Andy and posting about people or horses dying.

Anything other than that and he has nothing to say but needs to say it because his cat even ignores him at this point.

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Songbird won the headbob, and they awarded the race to the second place hoss. Watch the replay, it’s clear that Songbird was in front on the wire. They would have showed the mirror image, if it showed Beholder won. Watch the slow motion replay, listen to JD Bailey, who then clammed up, awaiting the photo. It’s all there. Repeat after me inside the sixteenth pole 1-8-1-8-1......

Obviously I'm late to this party. But why would the photo finish operator, the placing judges and Stewards care who won the BC Distaff?

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Obviously I'm late to this party. But why would the photo finish operator, the placing judges and Stewards care who won the BC Distaff?

Because...

[King Glorious]

She’s not even better than Rags to Riches. People never mention her, as if that wasn’t a two-time horse of the year she outfought in the Belmont.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

She’s not even better than Rags to Riches. People never mention her, as if that wasn’t a two-time horse of the year she outfought in the Belmont.

You're right. She's not yet as accomplished as RAGS TO RICHES.

I said she "might" be that good.

Let's see how the rest of season and perhaps next year shakes out

[Kasept]

[Kasept]

[moses]

Originally Posted by Kasept

So you’re saying that Secret Oath has earned more money than Rags to Riches? And her career isn’t even over yet!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

You're right. She's not yet as accomplished as RAGS TO RICHES.

I said she "might" be that good.

Let's see how the rest of season and perhaps next year shakes out

By June 7 2022 Secret Oats will have won a single G1 in her career. I am not knocking her she is a really nice filly. By June 7 07 Rags had 4 G1 wins including beating Curlin. I don't know the Thorograph figs of either but the BSFs are much faster for Rags. I am not sure Secret Oats will ever race in 3 more grade 1's nevermind win them. If I was making a future line for someone who wanted to wager that Secret Oats would end her career with 4 g1 wins I would say the number would be at least 20/1

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

By June 7 2022 Secret Oats will have won a single G1 in her career. I am not knocking her she is a really nice filly. By June 7 07 Rags had 4 G1 wins including beating Curlin. I don't know the Thorograph figs of either but the BSFs are much faster for Rags. I am not sure Secret Oats will ever race in 3 more grade 1's nevermind win them. If I was making a future line for someone who wanted to wager that Secret Oats would end her career with 4 g1 wins I would say the number would be at least 20/1

To be fair, only two of those four Grade 1 wins for Rags to Riches are still Grade 1 races.

However, Rags to Riches would have crushed Secret Oath like a grape. No sane person would see it otherwise.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

By June 7 2022 Secret Oats will have won a single G1 in her career. I am not knocking her she is a really nice filly. By June 7 07 Rags had 4 G1 wins including beating Curlin.

You're getting a little sidetracked from the overall theme of this thread, Freddy.

The head-to-head between Rags to Riches and Secret Oath is a side issue at best.

What we need to figure out is if anyone "called" Rags To Riches a potential superstar after her Churchill debut or even her maiden victory.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by freddymo

By June 7 2022 Secret Oats will have won a single G1 in her career. I am not knocking her she is a really nice filly. By June 7 07 Rags had 4 G1 wins including beating Curlin. I don't know the Thorograph figs of either but the BSFs are much faster for Rags. I am not sure Secret Oats will ever race in 3 more grade 1's nevermind win them. If I was making a future line for someone who wanted to wager that Secret Oats would end her career with 4 g1 wins I would say the number would be at least 20/1

Songbird had 4 grade 1 wins by April 9th and 5 more after that. It should have been 7 more, if Mikey took her out see Forever Unbridled and the placing judges got the Breeders cup right.