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Old 05-23-2022, 09:32 AM
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In recent history maybe two fillies would be considered "generational" to me. Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta. Both of them were much better than Secret Oath. Are we even sure that Secret Oath is "better" than Echo Zulu? Look at where the horses close to the pace in the Oaks finished.
I think Beholder deserves some very strong consideration as well.
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Old 05-23-2022, 10:51 AM
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I think Beholder deserves some very strong consideration as well.
Completely agree.

I'd also include RACHAEL ALEXANDRA & PERSONAL ENSIGN.
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:19 AM
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I think Beholder deserves some very strong consideration as well.
Couldn't even beat Alabama Stakes winner Songbird fair and square.
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:20 AM
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Couldn't even beat Alabama Stakes winner Songbird fair and square.
What was unfair about her win over SONGBIRD in the BC?
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:27 AM
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What was unfair about her win over SONGBIRD in the BC?
Uh-oh... You unleashed the Kraken. He is in the Q-Anon camp regarding that BC Race.
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:29 AM
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Imagine carrying on for SIX YEARS about a photo finish?

I think when he stopped drinking he started taking estrogen pills.
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:29 AM
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Uh-oh... You unleashed the Kraken. He is in the Q-Anon camp regarding that BC Race.
Oh Boy. Pretty sure the Stewards made the race official.
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:38 AM
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What did you guys think about Asmussen's post Preakness quotes?

Was he ripping Rosario's ride?

Kinda felt that way to me.

But not sure.

Was it a bad ride?

Not sure there either.

Opinions?
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Old 05-23-2022, 11:52 AM
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What was unfair about her win over SONGBIRD in the BC?
Songbird won the headbob, and they awarded the race to the second place hoss. Watch the replay, it’s clear that Songbird was in front on the wire. They would have showed the mirror image, if it showed Beholder won. Watch the slow motion replay, listen to JD Bailey, who then clammed up, awaiting the photo. It’s all there. Repeat after me inside the sixteenth pole 1-8-1-8-1......
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Old 05-23-2022, 12:02 PM
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Songbird won the headbob, and they awarded the race to the second place hoss. Watch the replay, it’s clear that Songbird was in front on the wire. They would have showed the mirror image, if it showed Beholder won. Watch the slow motion replay, listen to JD Bailey, who then clammed up, awaiting the photo. It’s all there. Repeat after me inside the sixteenth pole 1-8-1-8-1......
Vic this is the kind of stupidity that derails actual dialogue on here.

Everytime Estrogen Dan enters a thread it immediately jumps the shark.

There’s like 3 things he’s passionate about. Songbird, Andy and posting about people or horses dying.

Anything other than that and he has nothing to say but needs to say it because his cat even ignores him at this point.
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Old 05-23-2022, 01:10 PM
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Songbird won the headbob, and they awarded the race to the second place hoss. Watch the replay, it’s clear that Songbird was in front on the wire. They would have showed the mirror image, if it showed Beholder won. Watch the slow motion replay, listen to JD Bailey, who then clammed up, awaiting the photo. It’s all there. Repeat after me inside the sixteenth pole 1-8-1-8-1......
Obviously I'm late to this party. But why would the photo finish operator, the placing judges and Stewards care who won the BC Distaff?
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Old 05-23-2022, 01:57 PM
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Obviously I'm late to this party. But why would the photo finish operator, the placing judges and Stewards care who won the BC Distaff?
Because...

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Old 05-23-2022, 10:17 PM
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She’s not even better than Rags to Riches. People never mention her, as if that wasn’t a two-time horse of the year she outfought in the Belmont.
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