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Old 05-18-2021, 01:41 PM
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And a lousy actual person.
3 years too light.
Lifetime ban seems appropriate.
The game either has integrity or it doesn't.
I hear a lot diners can't find help.
I'm sure she could sling hash.
Really? Sling hash? Have a heart. Ya think some of our "favorite" trainers never got a heads up on a horse entering or not?
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Old 05-19-2021, 11:24 AM
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Really? Sling hash? Have a heart. Ya think some of our "favorite" trainers never got a heads up on a horse entering or not?
Bottom line, she is a cheater and a thief.
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Old 05-19-2021, 04:23 PM
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Bottom line, she is a cheater and a thief.
I don't know the facts, few do
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Old 05-21-2021, 04:29 PM
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I don't know the facts, few do
3 years and 50 grand.....I think we are past reasonable doubt.
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:13 PM
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Anyone who can justify cheating shows a lot about their own integrity(lack of). None of these trainers have a god given right to be a licensed trainer, it is a privilege. The real punishment should be a lifetime ban. When the punishment is extensive, then people will respect the rules. This will be a huge step in putting an end to the cheating.

As it stands now, she will appeal and it will be reduced to a lower punishment. She will be back looking for new ways to sidestep rules. As they all have done for decades.
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:44 PM
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Anyone who can justify cheating shows a lot about their own integrity(lack of). None of these trainers have a god given right to be a licensed trainer, it is a privilege. The real punishment should be a lifetime ban. When the punishment is extensive, then people will respect the rules. This will be a huge step in putting an end to the cheating.

As it stands now, she will appeal and it will be reduced to a lower punishment. She will be back looking for new ways to sidestep rules. As they all have done for decades.
Need to punish the owners who are the ones knowingly using trainers who push the envelope.
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Old 05-22-2021, 04:33 PM
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that’s a high burden of proof,
but if it can be proven......definitely
You punish the owners By banning all horses under offending trainer for the duration of suspension. No running under a Beard and they can't be transferred to another trainer.
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Old 05-22-2021, 05:13 PM
Dahoss Dahoss is offline
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Anyone who can justify cheating shows a lot about their own integrity(lack of). None of these trainers have a god given right to be a licensed trainer, it is a privilege. The real punishment should be a lifetime ban. When the punishment is extensive, then people will respect the rules. This will be a huge step in putting an end to the cheating.

As it stands now, she will appeal and it will be reduced to a lower punishment. She will be back looking for new ways to sidestep rules. As they all have done for decades.
A lifetime ban?

LMAO
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Old 05-22-2021, 06:15 PM
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Anyone who can justify cheating shows a lot about their own integrity(lack of). None of these trainers have a god given right to be a licensed trainer, it is a privilege. The real punishment should be a lifetime ban. When the punishment is extensive, then people will respect the rules. This will be a huge step in putting an end to the cheating.

As it stands now, she will appeal and it will be reduced to a lower punishment. She will be back looking for new ways to sidestep rules. As they all have done for decades.
Since when has simply increasing the penalties for something resulted in a greater deterrent effect? If anything, people will just try harder not to get caught.
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