Linda Rice

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Wha? The "She's just a girl" defense? It's 2021, bro. She knew exactly what she was doing. This is trite virtue signaling needs to stop.

Not at all. It's fact. She been in the game over 20 years. The fact that you can't accept that she faced bias is amazing tunnel vision. She still made bad decisions. I'm not a perfect person and I don't expect it from anyone else. Show some empathy and act like you have made mistakes before.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

Not at all. It's fact. She been in the game over 20 years. The fact that you can't accept that she faced bias is amazing tunnel vision. She still made bad decisions. I'm not a perfect person and I don't expect it from anyone else. Show some empathy and act like you have made mistakes before.

Purposely cheating is not "making mistakes". It's premeditated race-fixing which has absolutely nothing to do with some perceived bias due to her tiddies and vag.

I do not have empathy for cheaters. You apparently do, as long as you can draw some inane assumption that she got picked on for being a female. That makes it all okay-dokey.

Ok, dude. You be you.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Purposely cheating is not "making mistakes". It's premeditated race-fixing which has absolutely nothing to do with some perceived bias due to her tiddies and vag.

I do not have empathy for cheaters. You apparently do, as long as you can draw some inane assumption that she got picked on for being a female. That makes it all okay-dokey.

Ok, dude. You be you.

Must be very comforting living in a world where everything is good or bad and black or white. Anyhoo in about a year or so perhaps the legal processes will resolve Linda Rice's issues.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Must be very comforting living in a world where everything is good or bad and black or white. Anyhoo in about a year or so perhaps the legal processes will resolve Linda Rice's issues.

Im sure it’s not exactly black and white....but she definitely did something wrong. The guys at NYRA didn’t get fired for nothing. She was paying them for info.

That’s a huge advantage over other barns. Especially smaller barns who struggle to make it.

What’s her defense exactly?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Im sure it’s not exactly black and white....but she definitely did something wrong. The guys at NYRA didn’t get fired for nothing. She was paying them for info.

That’s a huge advantage over other barns. Especially smaller barns who struggle to make it.

What’s her defense exactly?

I am sure she did some stuff that she wishes she hadn't. She should be held accountable for those transgressions. It's a small community of people and professional and personal boundaries can get smeared. It happens, people cross the line she and a few others within NYRA got caught they need to be dealt with. The punishment should be fair that is all I am suggesting. Meanwhile, she will be running horses in her name for the foreseeable future, right?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I am sure she did some stuff that she wishes she hadn't. She should be held accountable for those transgressions. It's a small community of people and professional and personal boundaries can get smeared. It happens, people cross the line she and a few others within NYRA got caught they need to be dealt with. The punishment should be fair that is all I am suggesting. Meanwhile, she will be running horses in her name for the foreseeable future, right?

I’m not sure. Probably until her appeal is over.

What do you think is fair?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I’m not sure probably until her appeal is over.

What do you think is fair?

Max a year suspension. Remember it took two to tango, and if other trainers were wetting their beaks as well, which I think is likely the playing field wasn't as slanted as if it was just her. This is white-collar cheating and should be dealt with with a stern hand. You want her to "sling hash" the rest of her life because she bought employee X 1000 amazon gift cards when the max employee X was allowed to receive was 50 bucks. I don't know she made some awful choices, but she wasn't hopping horses up. She cared for the athletes well. I am assuming she paid her help reasonably well, nor was she defrauding owners. Give her 6-12 months in the penalty box set an example to her and the staff, and IMO that is a healthy compromise. Not everybody has H Graham's accent, Atras's alchemy. Rice has been a reasonably good look for the sport. I would not be thrilled to see her slinging hash vs training horses.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I am sure she did some stuff that she wishes she hadn't. She should be held accountable for those transgressions. It's a small community of people and professional and personal boundaries can get smeared. It happens, people cross the line she and a few others within NYRA got caught they need to be dealt with. The punishment should be fair that is all I am suggesting. Meanwhile, she will be running horses in her name for the foreseeable future, right?

Pretty much the thinking of everyone once they get caught.