NTRA Eclipse 50

[King Glorious]

Here are a couple of my posts on another forum before the race:
Arazi 0
Posted November 2
As much as I love Gamine, I don't think she wins here. Serengeti Empress is the likely pick for me. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gamine off the board. She is not fast enough early to run with these.

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Arazi 0
Posted November 5
If this race was 8f, I'd pick Gamine. It's not. I'll take it a step further. I think Gamine might be able to run 7f faster than Serengeti Empress in a vacuum. If allowed to run along uncontested, I think she could be faster. That Test Stakes was awesome. But in a sprint race with several runners all up there gunning, I don't see Gamine having the speed necessary to get the lead and that changes things.

[Dahoss]

Well that explains the HOY nonsense

You underrated her going into that race (I did too) and are overrating her now

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Well that explains the HOY nonsense

You underrated her going into that race (I did too) and are overrating her now

I absolutely did underrate her chances in the race even though I think she’s the best horse on the country. She shocked me and earned my vote.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If this race was 8f, I'd pick Gamine. It's not. I'll take it a step further. I think Gamine might be able to run 7f faster than Serengeti Empress in a vacuum. If allowed to run along uncontested, I think she could be faster. That Test Stakes was awesome. But in a sprint race with several runners all up there gunning, I don't see Gamine having the speed necessary to get the lead and that changes things.

You seemed to have formed your opinion of the race based on sprint racing in general rather than looking at the PPs. The BC FM Sprint was an 8 horse field with 5 dead closers, a couple of run offs, and Gamine. There was never going to be a multi-horse battle for the lead.

The only shocking development was that Venetian Harbor's jock didn't go for the lead after that owner dude blew up Twitter after the Test Stakes crying about a well orchestrated conspiracy to get his horse beat.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

You seemed to have formed your opinion of the race based on sprint racing in general rather than looking at the PPs. The BC FM Sprint was an 8 horse field with 5 dead closers, a couple of run offs, and Gamine. There was never going to be a multi-horse battle for the lead.

The only shocking development was that Venetian Harbor's jock didn't go for the lead after that owner dude blew up Twitter after the Test Stakes crying about a well orchestrated conspiracy to get his horse beat.

I didn't think she would be anywhere near Serengeti Empress in the early going and would be done for after trying to keep up.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I didn't think she would be anywhere near Serengeti Empress in the early going and would be done for after trying to keep up.

Gamine (surprisingly) relaxed comfortably on the lead after the first 1/4 in the Kentucky Oaks, John Velasquez is a seasoned rider who probably does his homework ahead of a major race, and the only time Serengeti Empress doesn't come back to the field is when the hapless Bellafina is her main rival.

Conditions were ripe for her to be in a garden spot, especially on a souped up track.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

The only shocking development was that Venetian Harbor's jock didn't go for the lead after that owner dude blew up Twitter after the Test Stakes crying about a well orchestrated conspiracy to get his horse beat.

My favorite part about that was he found a captive audience that agreed with him. Kind of a precursor to what's happening now.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Kind of a precursor to what's happening now.

It cannot be helped. We are trying to make lemonade here, especially this time of year.