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Old 12-10-2020, 06:05 PM
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Default NTRA Eclipse 50

A panel selected 10 champions from each of the past five decades along with one trainer and one jockey. They put the list out fans can vote for their 10 favorites from among the 50 horses. Well, 48 since two horses were picked for two decades.

Here's the complete lists:

https://www.ntra.com/wp-content/uplo...ndividuals.pdf
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Old 12-10-2020, 07:07 PM
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Zenyatta as a 2010-2019 horse is hilarious.
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Old 12-10-2020, 07:14 PM
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They have Spectacular Bid as an 80s horse.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:11 PM
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No Go For Wand or Bayakoa but we get Silverbulletday and Paseana...OK

If this was Major League Baseball that would be the worst trade of all time...
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:30 PM
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No Go For Wand or Bayakoa but we get Silverbulletday and Paseana...OK

If this was Major League Baseball that would be the worst trade of all time...
Curious to know where you'd rank Go for Wand among the all-time female runners of the past 50 years? Dirt runners only.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:50 PM
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Curious to know where you'd rank Go for Wand among the all-time female runners of the past 50 years? Dirt runners only.
50 years is too far back for me.

But mid-80s going forward what compares to a horse that was as fast as superstar sprinters Very Subtle and Safely Kept in the Test and only 9 days later as fast as Easy Goer was in the Travers when winning the Alabama?

And less than 2 months after that she was nearly as fast as Secretariat was in the Marlboro Cup when winning the Beldame.

Setting or pressing the pace in all 3 of those as well.
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Old 12-11-2020, 03:17 PM
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Curious to know where you'd rank Go for Wand among the all-time female runners of the past 50 years? Dirt runners only.
Realistically, She would be favored against any distaff runner. Speed of lightning, roar of thunder.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:31 PM
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No Go For Wand or Bayakoa but we get Silverbulletday and Paseana...OK

If this was Major League Baseball that would be the worst trade of all time...
Not sure how Go For Wand is not there. But then they just played Back Throated Wind into commercial on the Patriots game, so anything is possible. West LA Fadeaway also played earlier.
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Old 12-10-2020, 09:00 PM
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They have Spectacular Bid as an 80s horse.
Point taken although the difference between his 1980 year and her 2010 year is night and day.

His 1980 year was about as good a year as you could have, no?
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Old 12-10-2020, 09:18 PM
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His 1980 year was about as good a year as you could have, no?
That was a near-mythologic campaign, east and west, all sorts of track records, a world record or two, and capped with a ceremonial walkover in the Woodward.

Sadly, the fantasy was ruined a bit when I found out that Spectacular Bid was actually entered in the Jockey Club Gold Cup that year, too. But he was nursing a sore suspensory and for some inexplicable reason, Buddy Delp was actually contemplating running him, standing him in ice all morning long on race day. Mercifully he called it off at the 11th hour, but what a disaster that could have proved to be if he tried to run (especially since he was always suspect at 12 furlongs).
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Old 12-10-2020, 10:21 PM
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Point taken although the difference between his 1980 year and her 2010 year is night and day.

His 1980 year was about as good a year as you could have, no?
His 1980 season is arguably the best ever and would definitely have earned him horse of the decade for the 80s.
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They have Spectacular Bid as an 80s horse.
His 1980 season
ranks as one of the best of all time
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Arrogate is the best horse since The Bid, and The Bid was better than Secretariat!!!!
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Old 12-12-2020, 01:11 PM
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I just realized there was no love for Arrogate !!!!
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