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Old 03-15-2020, 12:06 AM
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Related to these first 27 names in the indictments, we now have names 28 and 29 including Rene Allard and Rich Banca from the harness racing game - top two "trainers" at Yonkers. (Sorry for the diversion from t-bred action.)

See the details here : https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/...-13-Allard.pdf

If you want to understand just how ugly some of these injectables have been, take a look at the recorded conversation between Ross Cohen and Lou Grasso regarding the Allard barn on pages 3 and 4. Grasso is quoted as saying, "Their heart rate was like triple they were breathing real heavy their membranes were going f***ing purple".

This story continues.
Surprised it took so long for allard. Seemed like it wasn't a secret in the harness industry.

Mr Gural quote "I'd rather go broke than to let Rene Allard race at my track"
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:26 AM
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Food for thought on a trainer who was not indicted but has been responsible for his fair share of move ups....Saffie Joseph was 26% last year and is currently 27%.

Since the indictments Monday, he’s 0 for 9 and really only one horse showed that patented multiple gears. Small sample size but I looked and he hasn’t gone 0 for 9 all year before this week and the last time he had a winless streak similar to this was May of last year.

I know it’s a small sample size and he will probably win his next 10 races but I found it interesting.
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:54 AM
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Food for thought on a trainer who was not indicted but has been responsible for his fair share of move ups....Saffie Joseph was 26% last year and is currently 27%.

Since the indictments Monday, he’s 0 for 9 and really only one horse showed that patented multiple gears. Small sample size but I looked and he hasn’t gone 0 for 9 all year before this week and the last time he had a winless streak similar to this was May of last year.

I know it’s a small sample size and he will probably win his next 10 races but I found it interesting.
Scared straight?
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:00 AM
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Scared straight?
His drug dealer is probably locked up.
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Old 03-15-2020, 02:05 PM
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Good to see A. Cheat Avila is still firing his gun.
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Old 03-15-2020, 05:50 PM
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Good to see A. Cheat Avila is still firing his gun.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:37 AM
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Scared straight?
Wouldn’t you be?
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:42 AM
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Wouldn’t you be?
Absolutely that is why this is a great thing for the industry including bettors long term.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:43 AM
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Now 0 fer 16
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Old 03-15-2020, 01:48 PM
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LOL....there’s the energizer bunny bullish.it. All he needed was me to post about it
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