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Old 05-05-2019, 12:54 PM
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This is a pretty incredible thread about a no-brainer DQ.
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Old 05-05-2019, 01:15 PM
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This is a pretty incredible thread about a no-brainer DQ.
Considering that horses get butchered every year in the Derby and the stewards never DQ anyone, I don't know if I would ever call any DQ in the Derby a "no-brainer".
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Old 05-05-2019, 01:49 PM
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Considering that horses get butchered every year in the Derby and the stewards never DQ anyone, I don't know if I would ever call any DQ in the Derby a "no-brainer".
That’s really the only reason I thought they might leave him up - “because it’s the derby” - and that’s not a very good reason. I can’t recall the last time the Derby winner interfered with a horse this badly, though.
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Old 05-05-2019, 01:52 PM
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That smarts.
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Old 05-05-2019, 02:26 PM
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That’s really the only reason I thought they might leave him up - “because it’s the derby” - and that’s not a very good reason. I can’t recall the last time the Derby winner interfered with a horse this badly, though.
This. I'd love for Rupert to show me where a Derby winner fouled another horse that badly at that crucial point of a race and didn't get DQ'ed. Pretty ridiculous to suggest that there should be different rules for the Derby than a $5,000 claimer.
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Old 05-05-2019, 02:42 PM
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This. I'd love for Rupert to show me where a Derby winner fouled another horse that badly at that crucial point of a race and didn't get DQ'ed. Pretty ridiculous to suggest that there should be different rules for the Derby than a $5,000 claimer.
You may be right. I don't remember a Derby winner fouling anyone. But I can think of horses being forced to take up sharply. I don't remember in any of those cases whether a horse who finished in the money was responsible. For example, I remember back in 2010 when they were passing the stands for the first time, somebody practically took Lookin at Lucky into the rail. It probably cost him 5-10 lengths. I can't remember who it was that fouled him and whether the horse who fouled him finished in the top 5. Here is the video of that incident:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bd0rf8RSeo

Every year there are horses taking up left and right and it's not always self-inflicted. But off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you whether any of those horses who have taken up badly, did so as a result of something that a horse who finished in the money did. And many of those incidents happened much earlier in the race.

I guess the perception of many people including myself is that there is always tons of bumping in the Derby and it is usually a very roughly run race. It seems that they usually allow almost anything. But you may be right that this is the worst foul that has happened at that point in the race.
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