TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL: Probables/Possibles

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Hofburg feels like the massive wise guy horse.

How is the likely second choice a wise guy horse.

As a wise guy, well before I sold out, I resent the constant misuse of this once respected term. It used to be that if you didn't know history, you were doomed to mislearn it from Hollywood...now it's from message boards.

[cal828]

I think that Blended Citizen might also be a candidate for that role having already won a race at Belmont (please note that I did not use the term "wise guy" )

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by cal828

I think that Blended Citizen might also be a candidate for that role having already won a race at Belmont (please note that I did not use the term "wise guy" )

The "smart guy" horse to use underneath Justify I totally agree!

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

How is the likely second choice a wise guy horse.

As a wise guy, well before I sold out, I resent the constant misuse of this once respected term. It used to be that if you didn't know history, you were doomed to mislearn it from Hollywood...now it's from message boards.

I get it. What would be your definition of “wise guy horse” though? Or do you think he’s the ML second choice, because I think Bravazo and Tenfold would definitely be in the mix for that?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I get it. What would be your definition of “wise guy horse” though? Or do you think he’s the ML second choice, because I think Bravazo and Tenfold would definitely be in the mix for that?

A wise guy horse would be an off the radar longshot that the average player doesn't see....and a horse that frequently outruns its odds.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

A wise guy horse would be an off the radar longshot that the average player doesn't see....and a horse that frequently outruns its odds.

I’m an idiot on the “wise guy” definition then. I always had it as the horse that’s gonna take way more money than expected because the people with real $$ are gonna bet it down. Like My Boy Jack was the “wise guy horse” in the Derby, or like Shirocco was the “wise guy horse” in the 2005 BC Turf.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I’m an idiot on the “wise guy” definition then. I always had it as the horse that’s gonna take way more money than expected because the people with real $$ are gonna bet it down. Like My Boy Jack was the “wise guy horse” in the Derby, or like Shirocco was the “wise guy horse” in the 2005 BC Turf.

It's turned into that by misuse.....sort of like the subversion of the word "value" in racing. A horse doesn't have value just because it's a big price.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I’m an idiot on the “wise guy” definition then. I always had it as the horse that’s gonna take way more money than expected because the people with real $$ are gonna bet it down. Like My Boy Jack was the “wise guy horse” in the Derby, or like Shirocco was the “wise guy horse” in the 2005 BC Turf.

I think you are both right. I think the definition has changed over the years. The way the term is used today, I think it is typically used on horses like My Boy Jack. And it seems like those types of "wise guy" horses practically never win. When you hear about a horse who is a decent price (5-1 or higher) that everyone seems to be touting, they seem to practically never win.

I like Hofburg a little bit, but if a lot of other people like him I'm probably on the wrong horse.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think you are both right. I think the definition has changed over the years. The way the term is used today, I think it is typically used on horses like My Boy Jack. And it seems like those types of "wise guy" horses practically never win. When you hear about a horse who is a decent price (5-1 or higher) that everyone seems to be touting, they seem to practically never win.

I like Hofburg a little bit, but if a lot of other people like him I'm probably on the wrong horse.

The definition hasn't changed....it's been subverted by people using the term inaccurately.

Been meaning to ask, how's your former protégé KYRIM?

[declansharbor]

Blended Citizen with a SHARP bullet workout @ Belmont this weekend.