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Old 05-01-2017, 11:53 PM
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it is true the foreign colts do not due well at Cd in May. But i think thunder snow might be ITM...what was his rag or tgraph for that race ?
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http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...hundersnow.pdf
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:26 PM
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pair of 3's...that's not too shabby.

from post 2, they can have him stay back mid pack, and then run for the roses around the final turn. dog fights in the stretch are not foreign to Thunder snow
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:09 PM
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pair of 3's...that's not too shabby.

from post 2, they can have him stay back mid pack, and then run for the roses around the final turn. dog fights in the stretch are not foreign to Thunder snow
Other positives: Owns a victory on an off-track and will be first-time lasix on Saturday.
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Old 05-04-2017, 06:25 AM
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Other positives: Owns a victory on an off-track and will be first-time lasix on Saturday.
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Old 05-04-2017, 06:41 AM
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Other positives: Owns a victory on an off-track and will be first-time lasix on Saturday.
Hasnt the medical community done countless studies to debunk Lasix as a medication that is a performance enhancing? Just Kidding
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:04 AM
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I have converted T Snows' Timeforms to beyers and found a perplexing thing.
if I convert subtracting 14 points he is not ITM in my analysis, but if I convert subtracting 13 points he is ITM...??sheesh ??

And first time lasix can be a great enhancement or a big let down depending upon how the colt takes to it.

This is a confusing race as a lot of the favs had had a beyer string that is mis-shapened by their goofy flops...IWC is an example..by far the fastest beyer string if you discount his 63 in the FOY, with 2 101 beyers in a row. Same thing with AD he has a bad alloawance number, and classic empire beyers look dismal as a string.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:07 AM
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I have converted T Snows' Timeforms to beyers and found a perplexing thing.
if I convert subtracting 14 points he is not ITM in my analysis, but if I convert subtracting 13 points he is ITM...??sheesh ??

And first time lasix can be a great enhancement or a big let down depending upon how the colt takes to it.

This is a confusing race as a lot of the favs had had a beyer string that is mis-shapened by their goofy flops...IWC is an example..by far the fastest beyer string if you discount his 63 in the FOY, with 2 101 beyers in a row. Same thing with AD he has a bad alloawance number, and classic empire beyers look dismal as a string.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:12 AM
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I will add this about Classic empire, he ran the 102 in the BCJ, and is capa ble of a plus 100 beyer. his beyer string is progressing toward over 100 again, he seems to be the only one with a progressive string that can top out over 100 as proven in the past. his 84, 97...next?? 105 ?

average beyer of the filed is 92.93 in their last prep..without 6 colts in the equation that have little chance of a win here.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:14 AM
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you wouldn't think that adding or subtrcating 1 point would make such a huge difference, but thats how close in speed these colts are to one another.

Since there seems to be no speed here worth mentioning, other non binary methods must be used to find a winner, like last win, win at 9f, wins at Cd, wins at more than 1 track, ITM in graded stakes, etc..
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