1/28 (GP): $12MM Pegasus World Cup

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Really? A once in a lifetime talent just cruised geared down. That wasn't exciting? This horse is 1 or 2 more of these races away from best ever IMO. He is different. No other horse is even close to him right now and I believe he is still improving. He is a lightly raced 4yr old. The best is yet to come.

I was referring to the race itself. It wasn't exciting. there was no battle down the stretch, didn't have to be chrome, any other horse would have been fine.

Im not putting him with the "greats" yet. C.C raced 27 times and won 16 of them. Arrogate raced 7 times. Yes arrogate beat him but C.C. was like Ali at the end of his career. It's way too early and he will probably be retired next year.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by richard burch

I was referring to the race itself. It wasn't exciting. there was no battle down the stretch, didn't have to be chrome, any other horse would have been fine.

I guess Secreteriat's Belmont must have been a real snoozer for you.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by richard burch

I was referring to the race itself. It wasn't exciting. there was no battle down the stretch, didn't have to be chrome, any other horse would have been fine.

Im not putting him with the "greats" yet. C.C raced 27 times and won 16 of them. Arrogate raced 7 times. Yes arrogate beat him but C.C. was like Ali at the end of his career. It's way too early and he will probably be retired next year.

Really? Chrome was over the hill when he won HOY and won all but one of his starts?

Wow, even for you that is pretty dumb.

[Secretriat34]

so it seems that upon arrival in Kentucky to breed , California Chrome was
x-rayed thoroughly, as most thoroughbreds are.

They found No issues, sound as a loud noise.

Could it be that the Horse in the #1 stall, Arrogate, got such a good start running into the first turn, striding wickedly fast, that the post position for Chrome was too much to overcome. I mean you really can't give Arrogate a head start by a few lengths with his speed, and expect to catch up to him.

I saw a 6 year old horse, who saw he couldn't catch up to the speed of Arrogate out of the gate, and he just gave up, like a horse who has grown tired of the game.

Nothing more than that..
he was behind from the post draw, and never caught up, and gave up at a mile after wicked fractions. He was seasoned enough to know, he couldn't catch Arrogate.

when you are in the 20th post at CD, you have a long stretch run to run the hypotenuse vector into the first turn, and loose little ground; at GP however, your hypotenuse vector is very short, and in most cases an insurmountable obstacle leaving you to run vertically instead of horizontally to approach the first turn. I wonder what the trackus distances would have been for the 2 ?

[LITF]

Uhhh...no. This is not what happened. Most likely he tweaked something in his knee that he couldn't run through. Ever go for a jog and have a kink in your leg that prevents you from running to your fullest? Bet your kneecap wasn't fractured. The X-rays coming back negative doesn't mean something wasn't wrong during the race.

This is not to say I think he would've beat Arrogate. I don't. I also don't think the trip or early fractions had anything to do with CC's performance. Something was physically amiss with him. That's all.

[richard burch]

I saw a 6 year old horse, who saw he couldn't catch up to the speed of Arrogate out of the gate, and he just gave up, like a horse who has grown tired of the game.

Nothing more than that..

If I said that I would get a quote like....Wow, even for you that is pretty dumb.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Really? Chrome was over the hill when he won HOY and won all but one of his starts?

Wow, even for you that is pretty dumb.

Horses can become old real quick, especially after 27 races and 5 years of racing.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by richard burch

Horses can become old real quick, especially after 27 races and 5 years of racing.

Some are just hitting their best stride

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Some are just hitting their best stride

I would say more are leaving than arriving. Especially at this level of racing. you also have to consider the late blooming 3 year olds coming up while you are declining.

Example - Look at Rachel Alexandra. Never the same after that hard campaign.



Ok some one call me stupid !!! QUICK!!!! tick tock...tick tock....

[steve]

ok I will...the breeding shed and the money to be made there is the reason good horses don't run