NYRA Late P5; Belmont debut Saturday (9/24)

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by KidCruz

Keeneland already has it don't they?

not 2 in one day

[pointman]

I really hope they keep this bet at Belmont. I am surprised they waited this long to do it, I doubt highly it will cannibalize the pk6 or pk4.

[mark2061mn]

Originally Posted by pointman

I really hope they keep this bet at Belmont. I am surprised they waited this long to do it, I doubt highly it will cannibalize the pk6 or pk4.

I think they would only have a late pk5 on cards of 10 or more races. I don't think they would want to overlap the last leg of the early pk5 with the first leg of the late pk5.

[Alabama Stakes]

Why not ? What's the diff ? Isn't the pick 4 part of the pick 5 in Cali ?

[saratogadew]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Why not ? What's the diff ? Isn't the pick 4 part of the pick 5 in Cali ?

No

[Alabama Stakes]

When they run 8 , how do they do it ?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

When they run 8 , how do they do it ?

They overlap it with the 5th race in both.

NYRA runs the pk5 and pk4 in the early races. I haven't looked at the numbers but haven't heard any complaints that it ruins the early pk4.

I still think they could do it on 9 race card once but I would prefer it late and I think they would increase overall handle if they did it that way.

[saratogadew]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

When they run 8 , how do they do it ?

I stand corrected Alabama

This is a very interesting topic. I don't believe it matters much when the overlap occurs with a last leg/first leg. I am going to check out average pool sizes for the last pick 3 of the day. You would think that if a longshot comes in on the first leg of the late P4, it should drive the late P3 pool up. I would also think the same at GP and KEE that if a longshot comes in 1st leg of P5, it would drive up the P4 pool. Vice versa, if an 8/5 comes in 1st leg of P4, will that tamp down the late P3 pool? Same with an 8/5 in a P5, will that affect the P4 pool? If I was carding races at a late P5 and P4 track, I would card the most difficult handicapping race 1st leg of P5. At only a late P4 track, same thing with the 1st leg. Wouldn't that drive up handle for those late wagers when 75% are out in leg one?

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Isn't the pick 4 part of the pick 5 in Cali ?

Yes,(starting with race 2)with the exception of DMR..........and DMR is costing themselves handle by not adding an early P-4 to the wagering menu.

[taxicab]

Tracks go with .50 Min's on P-3/4's because that's what the public wants.......as a result of the lower min's the handle on the Multi's goes up......so that's good for the track also.
It's a tax break for the player also if the payoff stays under $600 via a .50 score{no IRS window visit}.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by taxicab

Tracks go with .50 Min's on P-3/4's because that's what the public wants.......as a result of the lower min's the handle on the Multi's goes up......so that's good for the track also.
It's a tax break for the player also if the payoff stays under $600 via a .50 score{no IRS window visit}.

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