Obamacare Bleeding Out

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by jms62

And when it doesn't happen "long term" we will all forget these posts were never written. Can't be wrong if you kick the decision point far enough down the road. The process was broke long before ACA at least now we are truly insured for catastrophic occurrences. See ya in the selections thread coach.

You're a better handicapper no need to subtly brag.


I think that's cowardice which is why I used cowed.

Keep shilling for more big gov.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

You're a better handicapper no need to subtly brag.


I think that's cowardice which is why I used cowed.

Keep shilling for more big gov.

Dude there is no way I would imply this to anyone.

[Pants II]

Well you are.

But this is about Obamacare not horsies.

I'm a good handicapper on this stuff.



The ACA is Wal-Mart in Hospital form.

The flyovers are doomed, jms. Indiana, which is a traditionally great state for health care, just signed its death wish and increased MM payouts by $400,000 per case.

ACA was never about "guaranteed renewable". It was about the expansion of the Federal government and their ongoing manipulation of the population.

And attorneys. Can't let them slide if you're gonna throw Insurance CEO's under the bus. The sharks pushed this turd with gusto.

[Pants II]

People who don't provide shouldn't reap the rewards of the working class.

It's not about wanting people to suffer simply for their situation but when they are already in that situation and you take more tax money from the middle class to provide more for the have nots after decades of the middle class being stagnant...well it's not fair.

Why give incentives to the group of the population that won't contribute? It's lunacy and long-term its suicidal.

This wasn't the only way to do it. It was an extreme way. A sadistic, slow way of implementing full blown government run health care.

Our future generations deserve better. Our best and brightest deserve to live and prosper in a society that isn't overrun with starving sociopaths who believe some invisible God told them to kill people who believe in "demons".

The ACA benefits those types more than the useful.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

People who don't provide shouldn't reap the rewards of the working class.

It's not about wanting people to suffer simply for their situation but when they are already in that situation and you take more tax money from the middle class to provide more for the have nots after decades of the middle class being stagnant...well it's not fair.

Why give incentives to the group of the population that won't contribute? It's lunacy and long-term its suicidal.

This wasn't the only way to do it. It was an extreme way. A sadistic, slow way of implementing full blown government run health care.

Our future generations deserve better. Our best and brightest deserve to live and prosper in a society that isn't overrun with starving sociopaths who believe some invisible God told them to kill people who believe in "demons".

The ACA benefits those types more than the useful.

I agree with most of what you are saying. I think you know my reasons for liking it as it has touched lots I know in the last couple years. I have seen people who got far into it much further than I could begin to help with because they were booted from insurance. There are too many parasites feeding off the system. You mention specialists leaving the field. I have several specialists I play golf with regularly and they have been complaining long before ACA that they were getting 10-20 cents on the dollar from insurance companies for procedures they used to get 100 cents for. Same for hospitals. It is only natural for them to jack up their rates so the 10% they are getting is close to what they once got. Meanwhile for profit insurance companies making record earnings year after year. In summary the process is broke and it has been broke for years. It isnt any more broke with ACA than it was.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by jms62

I agree with most of what you are saying. I think you know my reasons for liking it as it has touched lots I know in the last couple years. I have seen people who got far into it much further than I could begin to help with because they were booted from insurance. There are too many parasites feeding off the system. You mention specialists leaving the field. I have several specialists I play golf with regularly and they have been complaining long before ACA that they were getting 10-20 cents on the dollar from insurance companies for procedures they used to get 100 cents for. Same for hospitals. It is only natural for them to jack up their rates so the 10% they are getting is close to what they once got. Meanwhile for profit insurance companies making record earnings year after year. In summary the process is broke and it has been broke for years. It isnt any more broke with ACA than it was.

Better regulations. Like making able-bodied Medicaid/Subsidized non-workers volunteer 50 hours a month of their time to local charities, homeless shelters, etc.

But then again that would be racist. The media would say as much because there's a far more sinister agenda going on.

[OldDog]

More regulations. That'll work.

Regulations have surged under this administration, this congress, faster than ever before. Over 170,000 pages now, more than double what it was 40 years ago. SBA says that compliance costs $1.7-$2Trillion a year. That's a giant sucking sound. More of this is precisely what we need.

Outta here.