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[Pants II]

Racism is being presented as one-sided.

I'm not with the narrative so until that changes you will get zero support/tears from me on the subject.

Work on the reality that every race is racist and the levels don't change much. Then we'll talk.

Until then don't expect me to join the lambs for slaughter. Your solutions are actually just permission for more racism.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Racism is being presented as one-sided.

I'm not with the narrative so until that changes you will get zero support/tears from me on the subject.

Work on the reality that every race is racist and the levels don't change much. Then we'll talk.

Until then don't expect me to join the lambs for slaughter. Your solutions are actually just permission for more racism.

Again, I find myself agreeing with you...racism isn't confined to one group of folks. About twenty years ago (roughly) I listened to a debate where one side presented the argument that black folks can't be racist because they lack to power to affect white folks...absurd! One can't measure racism by the results, while I agree that white racists historically (in the US) have had a much more overall profound negative effect on black folks than the reverse...racism is racism and the fact remains that racist viewpoints have a negative effect on both the racist and the folks he/she discriminates against. Dr King understood this but today's black leaders have strayed from his teachings.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Again, I find myself agreeing with you...racism isn't confined to one group of folks. About twenty years ago (roughly) I listened to a debate where one side presented the argument that black folks can't be racist because they lack to power to affect white folks...absurd! One can't measure racism by the results, while I agree that white racists historically (in the US) have had a much more overall profound negative effect on black folks than the reverse...racism is racism and the fact remains that racist viewpoints have a negative effect on both the racist and the folks he/she discriminates against. Dr King understood this but today's black leaders have strayed from his teachings.

Yes, any individual can be racist. But that doesn't help solve the larger issue of systemic racism directed towards a group. Or legalized discrimination towards a group.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Again, I find myself agreeing with you...racism isn't confined to one group of folks. About twenty years ago (roughly) I listened to a debate where one side presented the argument that black folks can't be racist because they lack to power to affect white folks...absurd! One can't measure racism by the results, while I agree that white racists historically (in the US) have had a much more overall profound negative effect on black folks than the reverse...racism is racism and the fact remains that racist viewpoints have a negative effect on both the racist and the folks he/she discriminates against. Dr King understood this but today's black leaders have strayed from his teachings.

I respectfully disagree, Somer; I think the whole point of racism is that it is measured in results- in the systemic and systematic subjugation of certain people based on an ideology rooted in the shade of one's skin determining their worth. I think a lot of people lump "prejudice" and "racism" together as the same thing, but I don't think they are. And it's not as easy or as obvious as "black is inferior"; it's a mindset that sees the white experience as the normative one. Our nation is deeply racist, and not all of the racism is deliberately intended to subjugate. But the result is the same.

This blog post, looks at white privilege from the point of view of a white person who grew up dirt poor:

http://occupywallstreet.net/story/ex...e-white-person