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Old 06-07-2015, 09:02 PM
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Would like to see him take on elders in Woodward or JCGC. I don't think that will happen. Baffert has a fondness for the Haskell. Who would be out west for the Pacific Classic?
Dortmund & Firing Line? Yawn. I'd hope that's not the case. The horse deserves to go to the Travers, then a prep for the BC, BC. Then, baby makin' time.
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:13 PM
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I want to him race the rest of this year but would be shocked for him to ever even work again. The insurance premiums will be massive considering they will be insuring against in the shred. guessing 200k to start with 125 book max

They have to say what they are saying now but doubt Coolmore cuts that insurance check with nothing to gain, and everything to lose

My guess is a slight hip fracture, like an illum, will be the excuse.
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:57 PM
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Article about his arrival back at Churchill includes video. Pharoah kindly stopped and posed whenever he saw a camera. Hilarious.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...hurchill-downs
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:03 PM
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I want to him race the rest of this year but would be shocked for him to ever even work again. The insurance premiums will be massive considering they will be insuring against in the shred. guessing 200k to start with 125 book max

They have to say what they are saying now but doubt Coolmore cuts that insurance check with nothing to gain, and everything to lose

My guess is a slight hip fracture, like an illum, will be the excuse.
Sadly I think this is the correct scenario...other than the injury perhaps. I think once the dust settles and the media goes away, they just turn him out for rest...and then he never comes back. We found a little heat, a swelling, a chip..something minor. Can't risk him not coming back 100%, yada yada
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:33 PM
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I'll take a Breeders Cup Classic entry and a win. But he'll have to race at least once or twice before that. I'm convinced that Zayat is true to his word and wouldn't lead the racing public and real fans on. He has this worked out with Coolmore, don't kid yourself. Zayat still owns controlling interest in him, so go figure. If I'm Mr. Zayat, wish I was tight now, I'd be very selective but run him for sure, if for nobody else but for me and my family.

Lastly, probably not though about all this, is that I don't think any of us understand how significant this horse is, how special he is and how important what he did this weekend will prove to be. We'll find out as the next few months and few years go by.

Is there any horse right now that's more worthy of all this hype? None, thank you very much. I can't wait to get in the office tomorrow and high five all those interested parties up and down the hallway and in and out offices. It will wear off soon, maybe.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:39 PM
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There are incentives in place for zayat at to keep him winning. These will more than easily pay for the increased insurance premium, which is probably being paid for by Coolmore anyways.

They could make another 5 million in purses as well.

Of course, his speed figures are glacial like, so he'll probably never win again.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:44 PM
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There are incentives in place for zayat at to keep him winning. These will more than easily pay for the increased insurance premium, which is probably being paid for by Coolmore anyways.

They could make another 5 million in purses as well.

Of course, his speed figures are glacial like, so he'll probably never win again.
Huh???
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:56 PM
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Huh???
his speed figures, particularly beyers, have been comically and idiotically low.

I'm being facetious about him never winning again.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:19 PM
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I want to him race the rest of this year but would be shocked for him to ever even work again. The insurance premiums will be massive considering they will be insuring against in the shred. guessing 200k to start with 125 book max

They have to say what they are saying now but doubt Coolmore cuts that insurance check with nothing to gain, and everything to lose

My guess is a slight hip fracture, like an illum, will be the excuse.
I am skeptical as you are, but I also think Zayat is a racing fan. It will be interesting to see if he actually does keep this horse racing.

http://nypost.com/2015/06/07/the-hor...latest-legend/
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:32 PM
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He promised. I assume his word is good. That means he's gonna run. Only a real icehole would retire him now. The hoss has earned the trip to the Spa. A Travers day for the ages.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:37 PM
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He promised. I assume his word is good. That means he's gonna run. Only a real icehole would retire him now. The hoss has earned the trip to the Spa. A Travers day for the ages.
If so, my wife and I will be there. Not only for Pharoah but it is our favorite part of Heaven on Earth.

We grew up in upstate and spent many a summer in the Adirondacks and have been to the Spa many, many times. Even from Dallas, long trip, since we've lived in this area for over 30 years it's worth it.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:43 PM
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I am skeptical as you are, but I also think Zayat is a racing fan. It will be interesting to see if he actually does keep this horse racing.

http://nypost.com/2015/06/07/the-hor...latest-legend/
Thanks for sharing . . . and awesome write.
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