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Old 05-21-2015, 12:54 PM
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It was a joke, dummy. But 28 goals in 6 games is enough reason to pull him if he starts Game 4 poorly. We're trying to win a Cup here, not stroke egos.

Yeah, Hank's gonna demand a trade if he gets pulled. That's not how playoff hockey works. Corey Crawford got yanked after one period this postseason and he has a ring. It wasn't a big deal and he was ready to go when called on again. Nobody is bigger than the team, if you're giving up 6 goals a game, you know you run the risk of getting benched, period.
Exactly.

The Lightning pulled Bishop in the 2nd period of Game 3 of the Canadien's series when he let in 3 of 14 shots. It's not like it's unprecedented or something - they're all professional

Hank should have been pulled after the Killorn goal in my opinion. He had given up 3 straight at that point (granted the Tyler Johnson goal was impossible, but he had a look at the Palat ppg goal - that should have been stopped).

If NYR goes down a goal Friday, especially if it's on one that should have been stopped, Vigneault would be certifiably nuts and flagrantly irresponsible to not put Talbot in. Bottom line.
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:13 PM
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Exactly.

The Lightning pulled Bishop in the 2nd period of Game 3 of the Canadien's series when he let in 3 of 14 shots. It's not like it's unprecedented or something - they're all professional

Hank should have been pulled after the Killorn goal in my opinion. He had given up 3 straight at that point (granted the Tyler Johnson goal was impossible, but he had a look at the Palat ppg goal - that should have been stopped).

If NYR goes down a goal Friday, especially if it's on one that should have been stopped, Vigneault would be certifiably nuts and flagrantly irresponsible to not put Talbot in. Bottom line.
completely different scenario danno.
that series was 3-0 TB, what would be the point in continuing to play a guy who clearly is having an off night?Up 3-0 in a series, the team that's up is playing with house money, and It TOTALLY made sense to pull him, as TB just walked away from that game knowing they weren't going to mount a comeback, and its just smart to give a guy a break when you realize the outcome is essentially sealed.

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Old 05-21-2015, 02:19 PM
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Brian,

The guy is a sieve. He gave away a 2 goal lead in the Conference Finals.

He turned a 2-0 lead into a 4-2 deficit - to me, you've used up all of your mulligans. The next shaky start, he's gone.

Are you saying there is no time that he can be pulled?! Ever?

Let's say Tampa (for the sake of discussion) holds sway tomorrow, he has a steady game, but comes up short - final score 2-1 with 25 saves.

They go to NY Sunday, facing elimination, and he gives up a soft goal in the first period.

He is GONE. Has to be.
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:33 PM
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Brian,

The guy is a sieve. He gave away a 2 goal lead in the Conference Finals.

He turned a 2-0 lead into a 4-2 deficit - to me, you've used up all of your mulligans. The next shaky start, he's gone.

Are you saying there is no time that he can be pulled?! Ever?

Let's say Tampa (for the sake of discussion) holds sway tomorrow, he has a steady game, but comes up short - final score 2-1 with 25 saves.

They go to NY Sunday, facing elimination, and he gives up a soft goal in the first period.

He is GONE. Has to be.
For the majority of the goals, he's been left on an island. He shouldve been pulled after the 5th goal the other night. There was just no reason to leave him in there. But he's starter the rest of the way no matter how many goals he gives up. Him at 80% still gives you a better chance at winning a game than Cam at 100%.
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:39 PM
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For the majority of the goals, he's been left on an island. He shouldve been pulled after the 5th goal the other night. There was just no reason to leave him in there. But he's starter the rest of the way no matter how many goals he gives up. Him at 80% still gives you a better chance at winning a game than Cam at 100%.
He is technically off right now. Just as he was early in the season. Can he correct that in 2 days? I hope so.

Regarding Nash, I agree it's not his fault, especially when they scored 5 goals last night. BUT, I am troubled by the play where he took the lead pass, and only had to outskate Garrison to get to the net, but instead veered off and took a relatively weak wrist shot from 30 feet. That was inexcusable.
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:52 PM
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He is technically off right now. Just as he was early in the season. Can he correct that in 2 days? I hope so.

Regarding Nash, I agree it's not his fault, especially when they scored 5 goals last night. BUT, I am troubled by the play where he took the lead pass, and only had to outskate Garrison to get to the net, but instead veered off and took a relatively weak wrist shot from 30 feet. That was inexcusable.
I agree and it looked especially bad with Fast resembling Patrick Kane on that breakaway earlier in the game. Nash looks like he's scared to make a mistake. He's more visible than last postseason but still isn't asserting himself like he does in the regular season. So tired of watching him skate in 1-on-1 and try to go to the perimeter rather than taking his big ass right down the middle.
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:35 PM
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Brian,

The guy is a sieve. He gave away a 2 goal lead in the Conference Finals.

He turned a 2-0 lead into a 4-2 deficit - to me, you've used up all of your mulligans. The next shaky start, he's gone.

Are you saying there is no time that he can be pulled?! Ever?

Let's say Tampa (for the sake of discussion) holds sway tomorrow, he has a steady game, but comes up short - final score 2-1 with 25 saves.

They go to NY Sunday, facing elimination, and he gives up a soft goal in the first period.

He is GONE. Has to be.
Sieve? That's a bit strong. Forgetting all other intangible aspects for a moment, Talbot hasn't played a game in 6 weeks. Tough spot for him to step into, if it were even a consideration, which it probably isn't.
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Brian,

The guy is a sieve. He gave away a 2 goal lead in the Conference Finals.

He turned a 2-0 lead into a 4-2 deficit - to me, you've used up all of your mulligans. The next shaky start, he's gone.

Are you saying there is no time that he can be pulled?! Ever?

Let's say Tampa (for the sake of discussion) holds sway tomorrow, he has a steady game, but comes up short - final score 2-1 with 25 saves.

They go to NY Sunday, facing elimination, and he gives up a soft goal in the first period.

He is GONE. Has to be.
Dan, his initial reply was to most likely sarcastic "start Talbot" post. He never said you couldn't pull him. I agree with BT that you have to start Henry. he hadn't been great but the Rangers have given up a ridiculous number of odd man breaks and are consistently getting beaten to the loose pucks in their end.
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