Dortmund?

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Doonior1

Ok. I understand. What I'm saying is that any hiccup in training up to the Derby is a red flag for me. I probably wouldn't have bet on Dortmund if I had hear about this, no matter where he finished.

I know what you are saying, but there is an information overload headed into the Derby nowadays. You get reports, from multiple sources that often contradict each other. You can say this info on Dortmund may have hurt him, but he ran a good race. At the same time, American Pharoah had a quarter crack and won. The one horse who's reported issue that really ran a stinker was Upstart, who received antibiotics. I was off him completely until I saw him sitting there at 32-1. Apparently I wasn't the only one as he went off at 15-1, which is a number I wouldn't have been as excited about betting.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I know what you are saying, but there is an information overload headed into the Derby nowadays. You get reports, from multiple sources that often contradict each other. You can say this info on Dortmund may have hurt him, but he ran a good race. At the same time, American Pharoah had a quarter crack and won. The one horse who's reported issue that really ran a stinker was Upstart, who received antibiotics. I was off him completely until I saw him sitting there at 32-1. Apparently I wasn't the only one as he went off at 15-1, which is a number I wouldn't have been as excited about betting.

Uh, what?

AP has a quarter crack?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Uh, what?

AP has a quarter crack?

I don't believe Upstart missing a workout and getting antibiotics was any secret either.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I don't believe Upstart missing a workout and getting antibiotics was any secret either.

Yeah, I recall that about Upstart. No clue on the crack though.

[Indian Charlie]

I just Googled American Pharoah and quarter crack. Zayats other horse had the beginnings of one, but not a single blip about one for AP.

[Sightseek]

He had a special shoe on that was covered extensively by DRF.

[ElPrado]

That was on for all his races this year.

[MaTH716]

You just never know. Makes me think back to how washed out Shackleford looked before the Preakness, before he won it. I would have canceled ever bet I had with him based on the way he looked.