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Indian Charlie 05-04-2015 11:40 AM

Dortmund?
 
Anyone heard anything that he had colic in the weeks leading up to the Derby?

Indian Charlie 05-04-2015 11:41 AM

Oops. One week before the Derby.

outofthebox 05-04-2015 11:52 AM

Just saw the video from CD and Baffert mentioning it. Says it was minor and didn't last long. Probably a shot of ban amine took care of it. Funny how he kept this in-house before the race.

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2015 11:54 AM

Per the Twittersphere - it was a mild colic event which took place at some point after his last workout and prior to the Derby - all rumor until confirmed, obviously Baffert didn't think much of it.

Kasept 05-04-2015 12:08 PM

If you prefer your information first hand, you could listen to Baffert talk about it on ATR.

Indian Charlie 05-04-2015 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1025743)
If you prefer your information first hand, you could listen to Baffert talk about it on ATR.

I will, thanks.

richard burch 05-04-2015 09:38 PM

he ran tough. if he was ill he did a hell of a job.

respect.

LARHAGE 05-05-2015 09:04 AM

A mild colic is like us having indigestion, it's no big deal, I can't even count the amount of times I've had to treat a horse for a minor colic, horses don't throw up so they have bouts of colic on occasion, unless it's severe it has no bearing even the next day.

Doonior1 05-05-2015 09:17 AM

Why was his Derby start in jeopardy if this is what minor colic is?

LARHAGE 05-05-2015 09:49 AM

Because it can progress to severe colic requiring surgery, but this was clearly a minor case as he was fine.

Doonior1 05-05-2015 09:53 AM

Ok. I understand. What I'm saying is that any hiccup in training up to the Derby is a red flag for me. I probably wouldn't have bet on Dortmund if I had hear about this, no matter where he finished.

Thunder Gulch 05-05-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doonior1 (Post 1025904)
Ok. I understand. What I'm saying is that any hiccup in training up to the Derby is a red flag for me. I probably wouldn't have bet on Dortmund if I had hear about this, no matter where he finished.

I know what you are saying, but there is an information overload headed into the Derby nowadays. You get reports, from multiple sources that often contradict each other. You can say this info on Dortmund may have hurt him, but he ran a good race. At the same time, American Pharoah had a quarter crack and won. The one horse who's reported issue that really ran a stinker was Upstart, who received antibiotics. I was off him completely until I saw him sitting there at 32-1. Apparently I wasn't the only one as he went off at 15-1, which is a number I wouldn't have been as excited about betting.

Indian Charlie 05-05-2015 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 1025907)
I know what you are saying, but there is an information overload headed into the Derby nowadays. You get reports, from multiple sources that often contradict each other. You can say this info on Dortmund may have hurt him, but he ran a good race. At the same time, American Pharoah had a quarter crack and won. The one horse who's reported issue that really ran a stinker was Upstart, who received antibiotics. I was off him completely until I saw him sitting there at 32-1. Apparently I wasn't the only one as he went off at 15-1, which is a number I wouldn't have been as excited about betting.

Uh, what?

AP has a quarter crack?

MaTH716 05-05-2015 10:10 AM

You just never know. Makes me think back to how washed out Shackleford looked before the Preakness, before he won it. I would have canceled ever bet I had with him based on the way he looked.

Rudeboyelvis 05-05-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1025911)
Uh, what?

AP has a quarter crack?

I don't believe Upstart missing a workout and getting antibiotics was any secret either.

Indian Charlie 05-05-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1025922)
I don't believe Upstart missing a workout and getting antibiotics was any secret either.

Yeah, I recall that about Upstart. No clue on the crack though.

Indian Charlie 05-05-2015 11:41 AM

I just Googled American Pharoah and quarter crack. Zayats other horse had the beginnings of one, but not a single blip about one for AP.

Sightseek 05-05-2015 12:17 PM

He had a special shoe on that was covered extensively by DRF.

ElPrado 05-05-2015 03:07 PM

That was on for all his races this year.

Indian Charlie 05-05-2015 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 1025936)
He had a special shoe on that was covered extensively by DRF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElPrado (Post 1025960)
That was on for all his races this year.

I have no idea how I missed that, but thanks for informing me.


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