facepalm of the day

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

She's probably better off out of there anyway. Just unreal that's how they chose to handle it. Glad for her shes beaten that disease. You'd think tho that private schools would have to meet the same standards...I thought the main reason people sought private was it was perceived as better?

Yes, that is why parents seek private schools, even though the facts don't actually bear that belief out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-book-says-no/

Adjusted for demographics, public schools do a better job, often because their teaching methods aren't outdated, like they often are in private schools (especially religious ones). Kids in private schools do well because they are rich, not because the school is private. As has been said before, the US does not have an education crisis; it has a poverty crisis.

Back in high school, at Model UN, I was seated next to a boy from the local Catholic School, who proceeded to jam his hand up my skirt half an hour into the session. I can't speak to his knowledge of the United Nations, but he certainly was well educated in sexually harassing teenage girls.

So yeah, depending on the poverty rates of the student body at the public school in Battle Creek, this young girl may well end up better off, and her parents may have a bit more money to put towards her college fund.

[GenuineRisk]

Ah, the power of the media- the school caved:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/g...eturn-30600790

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Back in high school, at Model UN, I was seated next to a boy from the local Catholic School, who proceeded to jam his hand up my skirt half an hour into the session. I can't speak to his knowledge of the United Nations, but he certainly was well educated in sexually harassing teenage girls.

Sorry it happened but I would think his parents and not the Catholic school bore the majority of the blame for the pervert's actions.

Ironically the only harassment I observed during 12 years of Catholic school was from 3 homosexual, Jesuit priests, one of whom was the school's President, during my Junior and Senior years at an all boys H.S.

Unluckily he avoided prison time but has since been removed. And two victims is a joke, more like 50 would be my guess. Victim received a settlement in the 90's and over 15 years later he was removed? :

http://www.bishopaccountability.org/...awrence_sj.htm

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Sorry it happened but I would think his parents and not the Catholic school bore the majority of the blame for the pervert's actions.

Ironically the only harassment I observed during 12 years of Catholic school was from 3 homosexual, Jesuit priests, one of whom was the school's President, during my Junior and Senior years at an all boys H.S.

Unluckily he avoided prison time but has since been removed. And two victims is a joke, more like 50 would be my guess. Victim received a settlement in the 90's and over 15 years later he was removed? :

http://www.bishopaccountability.org/...awrence_sj.htm

This post isn't exactly what I would call a defense of Catholic schools.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

This post isn't exactly what I would call a defense of Catholic schools.

Wasn't meant to be. Certainly when I look back on the Academy and my grade school it wasn't the nuns and priests I remember fondly, it was my fellow students and many of their parents.

Loyola's majority of priests were decent, not great but decent, but some (at least 3) were Godless, lying, Chicken Hawks, nothing more and NOTHING LESS.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Loyola's majority of priests were decent, not great but decent

Interestingly, that's one of the issues with private schools (many of which are religious)- the teachers are okay, but nothing great, because they don't have to continue their education or learn about new teaching methods. Public school teachers are required to continue their education (at their own expense) if they are to maintain their certification. At the non-profit I worked at, we offered some continuing education programs for teachers a few times every year. I hated them, because they were always on holidays (because no school) so I had to work holidays, but then again, at least I was paid to be there on a holiday, while the teachers attending were paying to be there on their days off.

[GenuineRisk]

http://gawker.com/ceo-of-bankrupt-ch...s-i-1700456997

Good grief. That letter...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://gawker.com/ceo-of-bankrupt-ch...s-i-1700456997

Good grief. That letter...

Oho....wow

I have no doubt they learned something valuable....how tone deaf can you be?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Interestingly, that's one of the issues with private schools (many of which are religious)- the teachers are okay, but nothing great, because they don't have to continue their education or learn about new teaching methods. Public school teachers are required to continue their education (at their own expense) if they are to maintain their certification. At the non-profit I worked at, we offered some continuing education programs for teachers a few times every year. I hated them, because they were always on holidays (because no school) so I had to work holidays, but then again, at least I was paid to be there on a holiday, while the teachers attending were paying to be there on their days off.

Except some of the lay teachers I had at LA were exceptional. While priests mainly taught things like English, Latin and Theology, lay teachers primarily taught math, science and history. The reason I went there was a decision made solely by my mother and it wasn't because of religion but rather the school being far superior to Glenbrook South, the public school I would have gone to. I just checked and Loyola to this day towers over GBS in both test scores and students going onto college. I must also add my hometown Glenview IL was upper-middle class to upper class and remains so today.

Also I'd say a 1/3 of the students attending Loyola were not Catholic and theology was not a mandatory class. In fact I was enrolled in an integrated science program freshman and sophomore year where Chemistry, Physics and Biology I and II were all taught in a 2-period class and those in the program did not take theology.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Except some of the lay teachers I had at LA were exceptional. While priests mainly taught things like English, Latin and Theology, lay teachers primarily taught math, science and history. The reason I went there was a decision made solely by my mother and it wasn't because of religion but rather the school being far superior to Glenbrook South, the public school I would have gone to. I just checked and Loyola to this day towers over GBS in both test scores and students going onto college. I must also add my hometown Glenview IL was upper-middle class to upper class and remains so today.

Also I'd say a 1/3 of the students attending Loyola were not Catholic and theology was not a mandatory class. In fact I was enrolled in an integrated science program freshman and sophomore year where Chemistry, Physics and Biology I and II were all taught in a 2-period class and those in the program did not take theology.

Out of curiosity, I googled, and in fact 13 percent of Glenbrook South's students are economically disadvantaged. Obviously, I don't know what the demographics were when you were there, but today slightly more than one out of ten students is poor. In light of that, they have an exceptionally good graduation rate.

Loyola's tuition is currently over $15,000/year.