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Old 04-26-2015, 06:28 PM
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From Crooks and Liars' piece on this:

"Public schools would have been required to create an individual plan for Rose, accommodating her special needs and eventually helping her to move back into the mainstream as she recovered. But private schools -- particularly church schools -- are not under the same obligations. In fact, they're not required to follow any of the rules which guard the rights of disabled children to receive a free appropriate public education."

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/12...e-school-after
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From Crooks and Liars' piece on this:

"Public schools would have been required to create an individual plan for Rose, accommodating her special needs and eventually helping her to move back into the mainstream as she recovered. But private schools -- particularly church schools -- are not under the same obligations. In fact, they're not required to follow any of the rules which guard the rights of disabled children to receive a free appropriate public education."

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/12...e-school-after
She's probably better off out of there anyway. Just unreal that's how they chose to handle it. Glad for her shes beaten that disease. You'd think tho that private schools would have to meet the same standards...I thought the main reason people sought private was it was perceived as better?
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Old 04-26-2015, 08:14 PM
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She's probably better off out of there anyway. Just unreal that's how they chose to handle it. Glad for her shes beaten that disease. You'd think tho that private schools would have to meet the same standards...I thought the main reason people sought private was it was perceived as better?
Yes, that is why parents seek private schools, even though the facts don't actually bear that belief out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-book-says-no/

Adjusted for demographics, public schools do a better job, often because their teaching methods aren't outdated, like they often are in private schools (especially religious ones). Kids in private schools do well because they are rich, not because the school is private. As has been said before, the US does not have an education crisis; it has a poverty crisis.

Back in high school, at Model UN, I was seated next to a boy from the local Catholic School, who proceeded to jam his hand up my skirt half an hour into the session. I can't speak to his knowledge of the United Nations, but he certainly was well educated in sexually harassing teenage girls.

So yeah, depending on the poverty rates of the student body at the public school in Battle Creek, this young girl may well end up better off, and her parents may have a bit more money to put towards her college fund.
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Ah, the power of the media- the school caved:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/g...eturn-30600790
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Back in high school, at Model UN, I was seated next to a boy from the local Catholic School, who proceeded to jam his hand up my skirt half an hour into the session. I can't speak to his knowledge of the United Nations, but he certainly was well educated in sexually harassing teenage girls.
Sorry it happened but I would think his parents and not the Catholic school bore the majority of the blame for the pervert's actions.

Ironically the only harassment I observed during 12 years of Catholic school was from 3 homosexual, Jesuit priests, one of whom was the school's President, during my Junior and Senior years at an all boys H.S.

Unluckily he avoided prison time but has since been removed. And two victims is a joke, more like 50 would be my guess. Victim received a settlement in the 90's and over 15 years later he was removed? :

http://www.bishopaccountability.org/...awrence_sj.htm
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Sorry it happened but I would think his parents and not the Catholic school bore the majority of the blame for the pervert's actions.

Ironically the only harassment I observed during 12 years of Catholic school was from 3 homosexual, Jesuit priests, one of whom was the school's President, during my Junior and Senior years at an all boys H.S.

Unluckily he avoided prison time but has since been removed. And two victims is a joke, more like 50 would be my guess. Victim received a settlement in the 90's and over 15 years later he was removed? :

http://www.bishopaccountability.org/...awrence_sj.htm
This post isn't exactly what I would call a defense of Catholic schools.
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This post isn't exactly what I would call a defense of Catholic schools.
Wasn't meant to be. Certainly when I look back on the Academy and my grade school it wasn't the nuns and priests I remember fondly, it was my fellow students and many of their parents.

Loyola's majority of priests were decent, not great but decent, but some (at least 3) were Godless, lying, Chicken Hawks, nothing more and NOTHING LESS.
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Loyola's majority of priests were decent, not great but decent
Interestingly, that's one of the issues with private schools (many of which are religious)- the teachers are okay, but nothing great, because they don't have to continue their education or learn about new teaching methods. Public school teachers are required to continue their education (at their own expense) if they are to maintain their certification. At the non-profit I worked at, we offered some continuing education programs for teachers a few times every year. I hated them, because they were always on holidays (because no school) so I had to work holidays, but then again, at least I was paid to be there on a holiday, while the teachers attending were paying to be there on their days off.
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