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[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I dont know his character, as such to measure his worth without knowing him directly is not a practice I am comfortable with. Certainly if you feel you "know" his character you are welcomed to measure this man in any capacity you deem valid. There is no denying his previous business work as immensely successful at least if you define success as profitable. I tend to evaluate business ventures on there success and or failure to produce profit. If you dont or have another definition that serves you so be it.

Well then according to your criteria , Bernie Madoff would rate highly on your scale

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

Well then according to your criteria , Bernie Madoff would rate highly on your scale

Really. not a fair example Madoff was/is a criminal. Am I to understanding the tenor of your post, you are comparing Madoff to Gural and suggesting that he is a criminal?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Really. not a fair example Madoff was/is a criminal. Am I to understanding the tenor of your post, you are comparing Madoff to Gural and suggesting that he is a criminal?

I am not comparing the 2 but nice try in spinning it. You know what point I was trying to make. I was getting on your case for judging someone's worth by their success in business.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

I am not comparing the 2 but nice try in spinning it. You know what point I was trying to make. I was getting on your case for judging someone's worth by their success in business.

Madoff was never successful in business as a bank robber is not successful just because he/she haven't been caught. Obviously I don't have any use for criminals nor would I deem such successful in business. Clearly you seem to feel you have knowledge that Gural is a criminal as you have lumped him into a conversation referencing a world class slime . I only acknowledge Gural's immense success as a businessman. I cant speak to him personally, but he has undoubtedly earned a reputation as a titan in the business community. If you have evidence of his criminal behavior I suggest you report it to Governing authorities ASAP. Otherwise just say you don't have a friggin idea who and what he is, save what the public can learn reading about him which is a wonderful wonderful BIO on a truly great business man. Again I dont know him but apparently Steve does and thinks he is a "shmoe"..That's fine with me Steve must really know him, I don't

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Madoff was never successful in business as a bank robber is not successful just because he/she haven't been caught. Obviously I don't have any use for criminals nor would I deem such successful in business. Clearly you seem to feel you have knowledge that Gural is a criminal as you have lumped him into a conversation referencing a world class slime . I only acknowledge Gural's immense success as a businessman. I cant speak to him personally, but he has undoubtedly earned a reputation as a titan in the business community. If you have evidence of his criminal behavior I suggest you report it to Governing authorities ASAP. Otherwise just say you don't have a friggin idea who and what he is, save what the public can learn reading about him which is a wonderful wonderful BIO on a truly great business man. Again I dont know him but apparently Steve does and thinks he is a "shmoe"..That's fine with me Steve must really know him, I don't

Please cease with your libelous straw man claim that I called Gural a criminal. On a side topic? Can you name all the trainers you used for your horses?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

Please cease with your libelous straw man claim that I called Gural a criminal. On a side topic? Can you name all the trainers you used for your horses?

Let's stay on topic when did I say you called Gural a criminal? I said if you had evidence that he was Madoff monster you should report him to governing authorities.

No

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Let's stay on topic when did I say you called Gural a criminal? I said if you had evidence that he was Madoff monster you should report him to governing authorities.

No

No? Why is that Freddie? Some "Good Horseman" with Reputations for breaking the rules on the list?