MA casino lean likely dooms Suffolk (Update: Deal set for 2015-16)

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by richard burch

i don't know why it means the "end". It will take some creative and commited help to stay racing but it can be done.

I will use this man as a great example of how to get it done right.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Gural

He's a preening schmoe and complete phony.

[saratogadew]

That's a shock to me. Steve, I don't doubt you on this. As an outsider, I always thought he was good for harness racing. Ive been to Tioga Downs, which is a nice, smaller size type racino. When he took over the Med, built the new facility, I thought it was a good thing. Is he just all about the slot dollars? Was the new Med facility only built to try and attract slots there? Give me the lowdown on this guy???

[Kasept]

Everything he does is a posture designed to provide an image of someone trying valiantly to preserve harness racing when in fact all he really wants are casino licenses. He's a self indulgent bully. Joe Faraldo called it right on him from day one and has run rings around him.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

He's a preening schmoe and complete phony.

Not a bad bio for a schmo?

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Not a bad bio for a schmo?

note all his work for charity.... the boss is right as usual,

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

note all his work for charity.... the boss is right as usual,

I dont know the guy from Adam but he certainly has a very successful career to date. Doesnt mean he is the salt of the earth but doesnt appear to be a stooge either. Steve is more likely right then wrong especially if he feels so strongly about him. My point was just to add a bit of balance, he isnt without business skills

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I dont know the guy from Adam but he certainly has a very successful career to date. Doesnt mean he is the salt of the earth but doesnt appear to be a stooge either. Steve is more likely right then wrong especially if he feels so strongly about him. My point was just to add a bit of balance, he isnt without business skills

That is the fundamental difference between you and Steve. He measures a man's worth by his character.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jms62

That is the fundamental difference between you and Steve. He measures a man's worth by his character.

I dont know his character, as such to measure his worth without knowing him directly is not a practice I am comfortable with. Certainly if you feel you "know" his character you are welcomed to measure this man in any capacity you deem valid. There is no denying his previous business work as immensely successful at least if you define success as profitable. I tend to evaluate business ventures on there success and or failure to produce profit. If you dont or have another definition that serves you so be it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I dont know his character, as such to measure his worth without knowing him directly is not a practice I am comfortable with. Certainly if you feel you "know" his character you are welcomed to measure this man in any capacity you deem valid. There is no denying his previous business work as immensely successful at least if you define success as profitable. I tend to evaluate business ventures on there success and or failure to produce profit. If you dont or have another definition that serves you so be it.

Well then according to your criteria , Bernie Madoff would rate highly on your scale