Dortmund: Can He Be Stopped?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Agreed.

I think, from what I've read on boards and racing sites, that people are confusing A.P. with Bayern.

A.P. doesn't need the lead, you can tell by watching him run.

I love your absolutes about things far from proven. The only time he didn't control the pace, he got drowned.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I love your absolutes about things far from proven. The only time he didn't control the pace, he got drowned.

I am not absolute on my assessment, but I am very confident.

Much like with how Bayern and Shared Belief turned out.

That's part of the fun of horse racing, no? Trying to foresee how a horse will perform under different conditions?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Agreed.

I think, from what I've read on boards and racing sites, that people are confusing A.P. with Bayern.

A.P. doesn't need the lead, you can tell by watching him run.

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I am not absolute on my assessment, but I am very confident.

Much like with how Bayern and Shared Belief turned out.

That's part of the fun of horse racing, no? Trying to foresee how a horse will perform under different conditions?

You make absolute statements, you made plenty about CA Chrome that proved incorrect, and that is what I find amusing.

I think he will rate successfully is hardly what you said.

I think he may prove an enormous disappointment. I hope he races enough for that to be proven one way or another. I'm skeptical of that too.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You make absolute statements, you made plenty about CA Chrome that proved incorrect, and that is what I find amusing.

I think he will rate successfully is hardly what you said.

I think he may prove an enormous disappointment. I hope he races enough for that to be proven one way or another. I'm skeptical of that too.

Chrome busted up his foot in the Belmont. Injury and bad racing luck are not that easy to predict in a race scenario.

You knew that though.

I'm not sure what other predictions I had about Chrome besides him being a can't lose in the Belmont, but it goes without saying that any horse can lose any race if they get hurt.

As for AP, it's pretty likely he will rate, as I can already see that he does rate on the lead. Again, you know that and are just being difficult about semantics.

I agree about being skeptical on his chances of having a long career. I don't know how good he is yet either, but he just might be even better than his hype.

I saw his Rebel a bit differently than apparently how most others saw it.

[blackthroatedwind]

You had a bad opinion about CA Chrome. I have lots of specifically bad opinions. Admitting them, trying to figure out why you were wrong, and not dreaming up bs excuses, is a good path to take.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You had a bad opinion about CA Chrome. I have lots of specifically bad opinions. Admitting them, trying to figure out why you were wrong, and not dreaming up bs excuses, is a good path to take.

I am perfectly fine in admitting my mistakes.

My mistake with the Belmont was in not foreseeing him ripping up his hoof coming out of the gate.

IMO, a very bad opinion is one that sees Tonalist as a better racehorse than California Chrome.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I am perfectly fine in admitting my mistakes.

My mistake with the Belmont was in not foreseeing him ripping up his hoof coming out of the gate.

IMO, a very bad opinion is one that sees Tonalist as a better racehorse than California Chrome.

You don't bet, right?