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Old 09-30-2014, 11:45 AM
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Pretty amazing there's a good chance this will be the first time since 2007 that the HOTY will be the BC Classic winner.
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:07 PM
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Pretty amazing there's a good chance this will be the first time since 2007 that the HOTY will be the BC Classic winner.
If Close Hatches wins the Spinster and the Distaff and her record is perfect for the year (5 G1s and a G3), would you say it's likely that she'll win HOY ONLY IF some longshot jumps up and takes the Classic?

I have only followed the sport since 2004 but I don't remember it ever being so wide open (all year I was kinda hoping for Palace Malice, but alas...)
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:36 PM
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If Close Hatches wins the Spinster and the Distaff and her record is perfect for the year (5 G1s and a G3), would you say it's likely that she'll win HOY ONLY IF some longshot jumps up and takes the Classic?

I have only followed the sport since 2004 but I don't remember it ever being so wide open (all year I was kinda hoping for Palace Malice, but alas...)
You know he is un-retired right?
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Old 09-30-2014, 12:44 PM
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You know he is un-retired right?
Yes.
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Old 09-30-2014, 01:16 PM
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If Close Hatches wins the Spinster and the Distaff and her record is perfect for the year (5 G1s and a G3), would you say it's likely that she'll win HOY ONLY IF some longshot jumps up and takes the Classic?

I have only followed the sport since 2004 but I don't remember it ever being so wide open (all year I was kinda hoping for Palace Malice, but alas...)
Yes. But, Close Hatches' resume will be tremendous with wins in the Spinster and Distaff.

I will say that if a longshot wins the BCC, and Close Hatches and Wise Dan both win out, there's no question in my mind she is far more deserving than him.
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Old 09-30-2014, 02:01 PM
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Yes. But, Close Hatches' resume will be tremendous with wins in the Spinster and Distaff.

I will say that if a longshot wins the BCC, and Close Hatches and Wise Dan both win out, there's no question in my mind she is far more deserving than him.
There is no way Wise Dan can win right, his record this year is well...........kinda weak.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:03 PM
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There is no way Wise Dan can win right, his record this year is well...........kinda weak.
I dont think he can win. I dont care if he wins his next two starts.
With Kingman out now the Mile looks soft anyway, unless there is another Euro monster that I dont know about. I guess if they ran Wise Dan in the Classic and he won, that would be a different story.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:54 PM
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:20 PM
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It's Shared Belief's to lose at this point, but Tonalist has an outside shot.
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Yes. But, Close Hatches' resume will be tremendous with wins in the Spinster and Distaff.

I will say that if a longshot wins the BCC, and Close Hatches and Wise Dan both win out, there's no question in my mind she is far more deserving than him.
Untappable wins the Distaff Close Hatches is a fraud she has not run a fast race ever. IF Beholder doesnt run loose Untappable will crush these hacks
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:09 PM
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Untappable wins the Distaff Close Hatches is a fraud she has not run a fast race ever. IF Beholder doesnt run loose Untappable will crush these hacks
Lay off the sauce, Fredo, Close Hatches is anything but a fraud.
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:42 AM
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Lay off the sauce, Fredo, Close Hatches is anything but a fraud.
reminds me of Ashado. Not sure she is fast
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Old 10-04-2014, 07:17 PM
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I'll say Wise Dan. No different than the last two years. He needed a horse to lose the Classic and a "right" horse to win it. It happened. He does need two horses to lose the Classic this year (Shared Belief, Cal Chrome) I think, but it can happen. You'll get a proper older horse to win the Classic...a Moreno or Zivo or some such animal, and it's all set up once again for the three-peat. Close Hatches has absolutely zero chance to beat an undefeated Wise Dan for HOY. IF Bayern wins the Classic, there is zero chance he beats an undefeated Wise Dan for HOY. If Wise Dan wins the Mile, the only two possibilities to beat him for HOY are Shared Belief and Cal Chrome. I say they both lose.
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Old 10-06-2014, 08:59 AM
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Lay off the sauce, Fredo, Close Hatches is anything but a fraud.
Love you Nick and totally respect your knowledge of game, work you do and time you spend at your craft. Where is her fast race?
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Old 10-01-2014, 06:22 PM
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Untappable wins the Distaff Close Hatches is a fraud she has not run a fast race ever. IF Beholder doesnt run loose Untappable will crush these hacks
As long as Close Hatches wins at Keeneland next week she is champion older filly. She will likely be 2-5 for that race. I don't care if she losses in the BC. She has had a phenomenal year. Beholder is finished, the Baffert was clearly best last Saturday. Untapable better find her Oaks form if shes going to beat Close Hatches. Her Parx race was OK, she was wide and against the track, but I was not overly impressed with her that day. I believe it was a 94 or 96 beyer.
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