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Old 10-01-2014, 06:22 PM
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Yes. But, Close Hatches' resume will be tremendous with wins in the Spinster and Distaff.

I will say that if a longshot wins the BCC, and Close Hatches and Wise Dan both win out, there's no question in my mind she is far more deserving than him.
Untappable wins the Distaff Close Hatches is a fraud she has not run a fast race ever. IF Beholder doesnt run loose Untappable will crush these hacks
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:09 PM
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Untappable wins the Distaff Close Hatches is a fraud she has not run a fast race ever. IF Beholder doesnt run loose Untappable will crush these hacks
Lay off the sauce, Fredo, Close Hatches is anything but a fraud.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:42 AM
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Lay off the sauce, Fredo, Close Hatches is anything but a fraud.
reminds me of Ashado. Not sure she is fast
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:17 PM
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I'll say Wise Dan. No different than the last two years. He needed a horse to lose the Classic and a "right" horse to win it. It happened. He does need two horses to lose the Classic this year (Shared Belief, Cal Chrome) I think, but it can happen. You'll get a proper older horse to win the Classic...a Moreno or Zivo or some such animal, and it's all set up once again for the three-peat. Close Hatches has absolutely zero chance to beat an undefeated Wise Dan for HOY. IF Bayern wins the Classic, there is zero chance he beats an undefeated Wise Dan for HOY. If Wise Dan wins the Mile, the only two possibilities to beat him for HOY are Shared Belief and Cal Chrome. I say they both lose.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:38 PM
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I'll say Wise Dan. No different than the last two years. He needed a horse to lose the Classic and a "right" horse to win it. It happened. He does need two horses to lose the Classic this year (Shared Belief, Cal Chrome) I think, but it can happen. You'll get a proper older horse to win the Classic...a Moreno or Zivo or some such animal, and it's all set up once again for the three-peat. Close Hatches has absolutely zero chance to beat an undefeated Wise Dan for HOY. IF Bayern wins the Classic, there is zero chance he beats an undefeated Wise Dan for HOY. If Wise Dan wins the Mile, the only two possibilities to beat him for HOY are Shared Belief and Cal Chrome. I say they both lose.
These dont feel like hall of fame seasons, but he is going in the Classic I thought I read so it should be settled on the track.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:08 PM
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These dont feel like hall of fame seasons, but he is going in the Classic I thought I read so it should be settled on the track.
Wise Dan is running in the Classic?? I would say the chances of that are about zero percent. They will do what they always do.
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:51 AM
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Wise Dan is running in the Classic?? I would say the chances of that are about zero percent. They will do what they always do.
I thought I read it was up to the owner.

Well thats sporting of em!

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Old 10-04-2014, 10:56 PM
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These dont feel like hall of fame seasons, but he is going in the Classic I thought I read so it should be settled on the track.
No sure where you read that but here it says he's going to the Mile.

"In a post-race interview on NBC Sports, owner Morton Fink indicated that the gelding would head to Santa Anita to contend for a third consecutive victory in the Breeders’ Cup Mile. The Shadwell was a Win and You’re In event for the Mile."

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/br...-win-shadwell/
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But LoPresti did not eliminate the idea of a dirt race for Wise Dan before the end of the year.

"I know the safest route is the Mile, and it wouldn't be too bad to win the Mile three years in a row," he said. "Then maybe we could go to the Clark Handicap (gr. I),"

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz3FEodzyVB

Sounds like they're hoping for another HOY.
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Old 10-06-2014, 09:59 AM
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Lay off the sauce, Fredo, Close Hatches is anything but a fraud.
Love you Nick and totally respect your knowledge of game, work you do and time you spend at your craft. Where is her fast race?
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Old 10-01-2014, 07:22 PM
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Untappable wins the Distaff Close Hatches is a fraud she has not run a fast race ever. IF Beholder doesnt run loose Untappable will crush these hacks
As long as Close Hatches wins at Keeneland next week she is champion older filly. She will likely be 2-5 for that race. I don't care if she losses in the BC. She has had a phenomenal year. Beholder is finished, the Baffert was clearly best last Saturday. Untapable better find her Oaks form if shes going to beat Close Hatches. Her Parx race was OK, she was wide and against the track, but I was not overly impressed with her that day. I believe it was a 94 or 96 beyer.
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