I'll Have Another's value as a stallion if he sweeps the Triple Crown

[HaloWishingwell]

Until Bodemeister and Creative Cause start winning some black type races this discussion is a no contest.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Until Bodemeister and Creative Cause start winning some black type races this discussion is a no contest.

You realize that both of them are GI winners, right?

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You realize that both of them are GI winners, right?

I realize that. But winning the Norfolk Stakes for one and the Arkansas Derby for the other most likely is not going to get them a higher stud fee than IHA at this point.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I realize that. But winning the Norfolk Stakes for one and the Arkansas Derby for the other most likely is not going to get them a higher stud fee than IHA at this point.

Here are all the ungelded males with 10 or more Grade 1 wins:

Spectacular Bid - 14 Grade 1 wins
Affirmed - 14 Grade 1 wins
Cigar - 11 Grade 1 wins
Skip Away - 10 Grade 1 wins

Spectacular Bid was syndicated for a then-record $22 million. Skip Away was syndicated for $18. Affirmed was syndicated for $14.4 million. Cigar was reportedly going to be syndicated for a record $75 million by Coolmore.

Skip Away and Spectacular Bid sired a bunch of complete goats. Cigar shot blanks. The breeding shed was the only place where Affirmed couldn't compete with Alydar.

[Calzone Lord]

The dam of Spectacular Bid was a fast sprinter on the No. Cal fair circuit.

The dam of Cigar was a 0-for-7 maiden.

The dam of Affirmed was 23-5-2-3 and made 21K in earnings.

The dam of Skip Away was 37-5-1-6 and made 66K

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I realize that. But winning the Norfolk Stakes for one and the Arkansas Derby for the other most likely is not going to get them a higher stud fee than IHA at this point.

They both have good breeding and black type...and many still think bode is the better horse. Just like some thought alydar was better, or easy goer. Of course alydar won the battle of the barn, easy goer on the other hand didnt.

[PeteMugg]

While Bode and CC may prove to better sires, those with deep pockets won't let the first Triple Crown winner in thirty plus years go cheap. I'm sure they will be willing to gamble that IHA could be the real deal off the track, as well.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I realize that. But winning the Norfolk Stakes for one and the Arkansas Derby for the other most likely is not going to get them a higher stud fee than IHA at this point.

Barring premature retirements, I bet Bode will have a higher stud fee. Especially in five years.