NYTHA Lasix Primer & Letter to NYS RWB

[Riot]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

So you are saying an individual horse gets the same amount of lasix each time it races?

Nope. I said the dose is determined by body weight. Those are two different things, even keeping with your concern.

Try learning about what you are talking about, before you declare "how things are"?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nope. I said the dose is determined by body weight. Those are two different things, even keeping with your concern.

Try learning about what you are talking about, before you declare "how things are"?

You're the undisputed master at turning things on their heads and driving them into the ground.

What I said was that instead of allowing individual horses to receive a variable amount of lasix (3cc to 10cc), it would be more ideal to standardize the amount. That is to say, every horse would receive lasix at the same dosage--for example, 0.5mg/kg bw--every time it runs.

What you are arguing is anyone's guess.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

You're the undisputed master at turning things on their heads and driving them into the ground.

What I said was that instead of allowing individual horses to receive a variable amount of lasix (3cc to 10cc), it would be more ideal to standardize the amount. That is to say, every horse would receive lasix at the same dosage--for example, 0.5mg/kg bw--every time it runs.

What you are arguing is anyone's guess.

How about if we use a dose of lasix that is both efficacious and legal, instead? Just a suggestion. From a medical person.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Riot

How about if we use a dose of lasix that is both efficacious and legal, instead? Just a suggestion. From a medical person.

Here we go again. Fine, let's change the example to 1.0 mg/kg.

What I said was that instead of allowing individual horses to receive a variable amount of lasix (3cc to 10cc), it would be more ideal to standardize the amount. That is to say, every horse would receive lasix at the same dosage--for example, 1.0 mg/kg bw--every time it runs.

Better?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Here we go again. Fine, let's change the example to 1.0 mg/kg.

What I said was that instead of allowing individual horses to receive a variable amount of lasix (3cc to 10cc), it would be more ideal to standardize the amount. That is to say, every horse would receive lasix at the same dosage--for example, 1.0 mg/kg bw--every time it runs.

Better?

It's great you know how to google

Why do you think a horse may get a different dose of lasix the next time it's used?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's great you know how to google.

Whatever. You've accomplished nothing other attempting to derail my posts with total and utter BS. Frankly, you should be fucl<ing banned for your behavior.

Clearly you didn't understand the point I was making, you should have just asked.

Why do you think a horse may get a different dose of lasix the next time it's used?

a) an attempt to alter performance and thus "fix" a race- decreased dose
b) an attempt to control bleeding not controlled at a lower dose- increased dose
c) an attempt to avoid unwanted side effects, ie "reactions to lasix": excessive dehydration, "thumps", colic-like symptoms, dullness- decreased dose
d) an attempt to achieve unproven effects, ie calming- increased dose
e) an attempt to improve poor performance not caused by bleeding- increased dose
f) an attempt to mitigate environmental factors, eg heat, high humidity, poor air quality

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Whatever. You've accomplished nothing other attempting to derail my posts with total and utter BS. Frankly, you should be fucl<ing banned for your behavior.

Clearly you didn't understand the point I was making, you should have just asked.


a) an attempt to alter performance and thus "fix" a race- decreased dose
b) an attempt to control bleeding not controlled at a lower dose- increased dose
c) an attempt to avoid unwanted side effects, ie "reactions to lasix": excessive dehydration, "thumps", colic-like symptoms, dullness- decreased dose
d) an attempt to achieve unproven effects, ie calming- increased dose
e) an attempt to improve poor performance not caused by bleeding- increased dose
f) an attempt to mitigate environmental factors, eg heat, high humidity, poor air quality

How dare you come up with such a list. You're not a veterinarian. I think there should be a new rule on this board. Riot should be the only one allowed to give an opinion on lasix. Nobody else on this board is qualified.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Here we go again. Fine, let's change the example to 1.0 mg/kg.

What I said was that instead of allowing individual horses to receive a variable amount of lasix (3cc to 10cc), it would be more ideal to standardize the amount. That is to say, every horse would receive lasix at the same dosage--for example, 1.0 mg/kg bw--every time it runs.

Better?

Keep it up you could get a de facto license one day to practice in Argentina?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Keep it up you could get a de facto license one day to practice in Argentina?

You might be on to something. I have connections in Buenos Aires.

I hear it's nice as long as you can avoid getting shanked.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

How about if we use a dose of lasix that is both efficacious and legal, instead? Just a suggestion. From a medical person.

I know you are a veterinarian and not an MD, but I'm sure you have some knowledge about medication for humans. Do you believe in fosamax for people with osteoporosis? The studies have proven that fosamax increases bone density.