Gotham Pick 4: Track Phantom

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

Laughable....lied about what? The fact that I posted a ficticious FREE online ticket (indicating what I thought it would take to hit) but, on race day, bet a smaller ticket? LOL

Don't you think there's something a tad disingenuous about posting an online ticket, then coming to a place like this and posting your amended ticket? This, of course, a week after the exact same scenario led you to a 5 figure score?

Posting exact tickets on a website, blog, or analysis is difficult. I had to do it for years. You don't have many variables in play, such as scratches, track condition, and other intangibles. It might behoove you going forward to post your thoughts and let your readers know you'll be back at a later time with a final ticket. Just my $.02.

[Split Rock]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Don't you think there's something a tad disingenuous about posting an online ticket, then coming to a place like this and posting your amended ticket? This, of course, a week after the exact same scenario led you to a 5 figure score?

Posting exact tickets on a website, blog, or analysis is difficult. I had to do it for years. You don't have many variables in play, such as scratches, track condition, and other intangibles. It might behoove you going forward to post your thoughts and let your readers know you'll be back at a later time with a final ticket. Just my $.02.

I don't know. Not sure I gave it a lot of thought. If I sold my picks, that would certainly change my opinion. I do it for fun and for free so, I think I'm entitled to post a 10,000 ticket and bet a $4 ticket. It is a demonstration as to which races I would spread or go light etc. I may bet more, less, same or different on race day. You're 100% correct that there are MANY variables that change ticket construction, not least of all scratches (of which my top choice was scratched in the last leg). Never thought I would have to explain this to serious horseplayers.

Let the sleestacks on this message boards spend their time trying to ferret out what I did bet, should have bet, could have posted on my website, etc while people that give a sh%t continue to try and make money at the game. It never ceases to amaze me at the amount of time some of these diseased people waste. Pathetic.

You do realize the argument this week is that I posted a bet (which I lost) that I didn't make. Could that be more ridiculous? Why would anyone do that?

[Dahoss]

The bottomline is you are attempting to drive hits to your website. You have already admitted that.

Not sure the reason, but there no doubt is a reason. Now, if you were any kind of handicapper, you could probably get a few people to buy whatever you're contemplating selling, (sucker born everyday) but acting like the worlds biggest douche doesn't help.

Again, maybe the problem isn't everyone else, but you.

[Split Rock]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

The bottomline is you are attempting to drive hits to your website. You have already admitted that.

Not sure the reason, but there no doubt is a reason. Now, if you were any kind of handicapper, you could probably get a few people to buy whatever you're contemplating selling, (sucker born everyday) but acting like the worlds biggest douche doesn't help.

Again, maybe the problem isn't everyone else, but you.

You know I've perused this board and another which you post at. Dude, seriously, are you in 6th grade?

You are the one constantly antagonizing people on these boards. You know that. Not sure why but I think it might have something to do with how insignificant you are in "real" life thus trying to overcompensate here. Other than youre few buttt buddies in here, most people think you're a complete a**hole. You can spin it anyway you'd like because in the bubble here, you are the mayor. But how about outside of here? I would think anyone that can post upwards of 20,000 times on a message board is liking using the message board for the adulation and affirmation they dont get elsewhere.

As far as my motivation....you keep worrying about that....seems like a useful purpose.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

I would think anyone that can post upwards of 20,000 times on a message board is liking using the message board for the adulation and affirmation they dont get elsewhere.

As far as my motivation....you keep worrying about that....seems like a useful purpose.

You redboard a pick 5 on at least 3 boards, but I'm the one seeking adulation and affirmation?

Makes a lot of sense.

Seems like you are using this and other boards as a way to drive hits to your site...but don't compensate any of the owners of the sites that are helping you.

Classy.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

It never ceases to amaze me at the amount of time some of these diseased people waste. Pathetic.

I ain't got nothin better to do. Before you put together another one of those big tickets, can I interest you in a couple of boxes of girl scout cookies?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

I don't know. Not sure I gave it a lot of thought. If I sold my picks, that would certainly change my opinion. I do it for fun and for free so, I think I'm entitled to post a 10,000 ticket and bet a $4 ticket. It is a demonstration as to which races I would spread or go light etc. I may bet more, less, same or different on race day. You're 100% correct that there are MANY variables that change ticket construction, not least of all scratches (of which my top choice was scratched in the last leg). Never thought I would have to explain this to serious horseplayers.

Let the sleestacks on this message boards spend their time trying to ferret out what I did bet, should have bet, could have posted on my website, etc while people that give a sh%t continue to try and make money at the game. It never ceases to amaze me at the amount of time some of these diseased people waste. Pathetic.

You do realize the argument this week is that I posted a bet (which I lost) that I didn't make. Could that be more ridiculous? Why would anyone do that?

You think it's ridiculous that people took exception to you posting a bet that you didn't make? Why would people take anything you post about your tickets seriously if they knew you weren't making the bets?

Your whiny plea to your "readers" about how you were torn to shreds on two message boards was touching. It's also getting wildly ironic that you're attempting to slam other people here about their number of posts, yet I'm certain your posts per day for the last week are as high as anyone's.

By all means, don't feel like anyone's forcing you to stay. You're welcome to exit the same way you entered...

[herkhorse]

www.phantombets.com

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

I don't know. Not sure I gave it a lot of thought. If I sold my picks, that would certainly change my opinion. I do it for fun and for free so, I think I'm entitled to post a 10,000 ticket and bet a $4 ticket. It is a demonstration as to which races I would spread or go light etc. I may bet more, less, same or different on race day. You're 100% correct that there are MANY variables that change ticket construction, not least of all scratches (of which my top choice was scratched in the last leg). Never thought I would have to explain this to serious horseplayers.

Let the sleestacks on this message boards spend their time trying to ferret out what I did bet, should have bet, could have posted on my website, etc while people that give a sh%t continue to try and make money at the game. It never ceases to amaze me at the amount of time some of these diseased people waste. Pathetic.

You do realize the argument this week is that I posted a bet (which I lost) that I didn't make. Could that be more ridiculous? Why would anyone do that?

Dude.. Your ticket was a massive 252.00 for .50 cents. What does "go light" mean ?

Let's look at how things went down. You posted this monstrosity of a ticket on your site then come here after the first leg is complete, a leg won by the favorite. Knowing that you aren't getting a price in the 2nd leg and a good chance in the 3rd either you shorten your ticket cost but include a horse that was getting a lot of action in the second leg which was not part of your original ticket. Alot of folks are saying that you are Rockhard but by your self promotion and desire to have a winning ticket it sure looks like you are Playa Playa.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

Let the sleestacks on this message boards spend their time trying to ferret out what I did bet, should have bet, could have posted on my website, etc while people that give a sh%t continue to try and make money at the game. It never ceases to amaze me at the amount of time some of these diseased people waste. Pathetic.

You do realize the argument this week is that I posted a bet (which I lost) that I didn't make. Could that be more ridiculous? Why would anyone do that?

It's all about credibility. You want respect? Earn it. Whether you play them or not, posting mutliple tickets on the internet for the same sequence is just going to get you slaughtered.

All tickets aside, the whining that you weren't getting the props for your pick 5 redboard set you straight down the path of ridicule.

Post your picks and shut up. If they hit you will get the recognition you so deeply crave. If you post different picks elsewhere than what you post here, do not act shocked when the sleestaks go on the offensive again.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

It's all about credibility. You want respect? Earn it. Whether you play them or not, posting mutliple tickets on the internet for the same sequence is just going to get you slaughtered.

All tickets aside, the whining that you weren't getting the props for your pick 5 redboard set you straight down the path of ridicule.

Post your picks and shut up. If they hit you will get the recognition you so deeply crave. If you post different picks elsewhere than what you post here, do not act shocked when the sleestaks go on the offensive again.

You hit the nail on the head. This is a cry for respect. Respect is earned, not given.

Here are the facts. Split Rock, you made a fool of yourself a few months ago and got called out by a number of regarded posters. No one hears from you for months and then you come on the site raging on two threads a redboard of a big pk5 supposed hit as if you were wronged months ago. You are demanding respect while at the same time advertising your product. On top of that, you had the nerve to dispay a PM sent to you by the man that runs this website as further proof that you were wronged when the PM was actually giving you sound advice and not insulting you.

The next day you come on and attempt to redboard that you were close to being a genius on the Gotham card. When other posters call you out on it, most of whom are recognized excellent handicappers who have the respect of the vast majority of the board that you crave, you cry that you are the victim (the patented Riot move). Instead of looking objectively and recognizing that you are the problem, you cry that everyone is wrong, not you. You are the problem, not the numerous posters who have called out your BS.

You may want to try going into the selections room (instead of creating your own thread as if you deserve one) and post some plays on the play along thread BEFORE races are run and attempt to earn the respect of others. That thread is for people who enjoy the carmarderie of playing with others that has been lost by the modern way of playing away from the track and are not afraid to expose the bad with the good. You would be well served to do it as a player and not advertise a product as this is not the yellow pages.

If you think that you are somehow going to be taken seriously as a handicapper with the approach that you have used on this board, you are wrong. You are making a fool of yourself and the more victim you play the less seriously people will take you.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by pointman

If you think that you are somehow going to be taken seriously as a handicapper with the approach that you have used on this board, you are wrong. You are making a fool of yourself and the more victim you play the less seriously people will take you.

I think you're actually missing the point. He is looking for one thing....attention.

He has been wildly successful here.

If everyone here wants him to fail in the future it is quite easy to make that happen. Just ignore him going forward.

[Split Rock]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think you're actually missing the point. He is looking for one thing....attention.

He has been wildly successful here.

If everyone here wants him to fail in the future it is quite easy to make that happen. Just ignore him going forward.

This dillweed makes my point exactly. Why would people care to see me fail in the future if not for small minded, petty insecurity?

[Dahoss]

You go girl.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

This dillweed makes my point exactly. Why would people care to see me fail in the future if not for small minded, petty insecurity?

The "dillweed" you speak of is universally recognized as one of the best handicappers on the planet. Keep up the great work.

[Split Rock]

Originally Posted by pointman

You hit the nail on the head. This is a cry for respect. Respect is earned, not given.

Here are the facts. Split Rock, you made a fool of yourself a few months ago and got called out by a number of regarded posters. No one hears from you for months and then you come on the site raging on two threads a redboard of a big pk5 supposed hit as if you were wronged months ago. You are demanding respect while at the same time advertising your product. On top of that, you had the nerve to dispay a PM sent to you by the man that runs this website as further proof that you were wronged when the PM was actually giving you sound advice and not insulting you.

The next day you come on and attempt to redboard that you were close to being a genius on the Gotham card. When other posters call you out on it, most of whom are recognized excellent handicappers who have the respect of the vast majority of the board that you crave, you cry that you are the victim (the patented Riot move). Instead of looking objectively and recognizing that you are the problem, you cry that everyone is wrong, not you. You are the problem, not the numerous posters who have called out your BS.

You may want to try going into the selections room (instead of creating your own thread as if you deserve one) and post some plays on the play along thread BEFORE races are run and attempt to earn the respect of others. That thread is for people who enjoy the carmarderie of playing with others that has been lost by the modern way of playing away from the track and are not afraid to expose the bad with the good. You would be well served to do it as a player and not advertise a product as this is not the yellow pages.

If you think that you are somehow going to be taken seriously as a handicapper with the approach that you have used on this board, you are wrong. You are making a fool of yourself and the more victim you play the less seriously people will take you.

Not sure how many ways this is wrong but looks like you've spent a lot of time on it so good for you.

In case this is a serious post instead of the majority that are just to be clever and cute, I'll correct where you are wrong:

--Made a fool months ago? Where? What? Lie....
--I posted that I had won the p5 because and ONLY because I had posted my analysis for the p5 the day previous. Anytime you want to see my bet, PM me and you can.
--Advertising what product? I don't sell anything...no advertisements, no selling of picks. Just do it for fun.
--As mentioned, I did go into the selections room in advance (are we not there right now)?
--Not a serious handicapper? Is that way 500 people have signed up on my FREEEEEEEEE site?

Maybe I am the problem. I will admit that I am not message board savvy. After what I've experienced the last few weeks, I have no intention of having that change. There are some really good people on these boards and people I would get along well with. I just choose to interact with people that have a touch of intellect and aren't rooting for others to fail due to their own insecurity. There are people like that on here...but you sir are not one of them.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

Not sure how many ways this is wrong but looks like you've spent a lot of time on it so good for you.

In case this is a serious post instead of the majority that are just to be clever and cute, I'll correct where you are wrong:

--Made a fool months ago? Where? What? Lie....
--I posted that I had won the p5 because and ONLY because I had posted my analysis for the p5 the day previous. Anytime you want to see my bet, PM me and you can.
--Advertising what product? I don't sell anything...no advertisements, no selling of picks. Just do it for fun.
--As mentioned, I did go into the selections room in advance (are we not there right now)?
--Not a serious handicapper? Is that way 500 people have signed up on my FREEEEEEEEE site?

Maybe I am the problem. I will admit that I am not message board savvy. After what I've experienced the last few weeks, I have no intention of having that change. There are some really good people on these boards and people I would get along well with. I just choose to interact with people that have a touch of intellect and aren't rooting for others to fail due to their own insecurity. There are people like that on here...but you sir are not one of them.

I tried to be nice and give you benefit of the doubt as I wasn't sure whether you were stupid, arrogant or both. You have clarified the answer to that question.

BTW is right, I missed the point, this is all about attention and advertising, and I will take his advice. I won't play your game anymore.