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Split Rock 03-03-2012 02:24 AM

Gotham Pick 4: Track Phantom
 
Let's try this again..... Ticket and analyis at link below

http://www.trackphantom.com/Raceoftheday.html

8th
#6 Sing Dixie Sing could constitute a single for those looking to cheapen. Has run two winning races but caught toughies.

9th (Tom Fool)
#5 Calibrachoa loves the distance and the track. Must use
#6 Caleb's Posse is prepping for the Carter. Classy but will be far back.
#2 Royal Currier is dangerous. Could be left alone on lead as others hold something back for Posse's late run. Upset special.

10th (Gotham)
#2 Stealcase got perfect trip in last but don't hold it against him. Will see a bunch of tired runners in the final 200 yards.
#12 Hansen gets new bit and blinkers off. Too headstrong in last. Wet track, outside post, new equipment. Taking stand.
#7 Suns Out Guns Out is still a maiden but if the race falls apart, don't be surprised to see this grinder make a late impact at long odds. How about the :59.4 coming in for this router? Could spark a goofy payoff.

11th
#8 Zone Breaker is top choice in a very difficult race. Must go deep to collect in the pick 4. Good tactical speed and three good efforts in last 5 starts. Slight drop could make the difference.

RockHardTen1985 03-03-2012 02:50 AM

The first leg is wide open. The hushion jv is live along with a few others.... I forget the name now but there's a horse in there who's like 20-1 coming off a dreadful trip...... next leg for me caleb is a total toss first back going 6. Emcee is likely a monster and u only need him n repole. Id press emcee for an extra 1 or 1.50 gotham.... hansens a total toss. I like suns out guns out and stealcase and a little dan n sheila. I could also cover 4 more in there. I'm playing it like hansen can't win n I'm actually focusing on the pick 3 ending there

Split Rock 03-03-2012 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 842782)
The first leg is wide open. The hushion jv is live along with a few others.... I forget the name now but there's a horse in there who's like 20-1 coming off a dreadful trip...... next leg for me caleb is a total toss first back going 6. Emcee is likely a monster and u only need him n repole. Id press emcee for an extra 1 or 1.50 gotham.... hansens a total toss. I like suns out guns out and stealcase and a little dan n sheila. I could also cover 4 more in there. I'm playing it like hansen can't win n I'm actually focusing on the pick 3 ending there

Interesting strategy. I looked at the Hushion horse in the first and it is a danger. However, what detered me was the fact that she is bred all over the place for the grass and faded when favored on it in debut. Still, with Hushion, it is a player.

I think you're thinking of Raffie's Chance --- major player. Not sure on Caleb's Posse. I'm taking a slight bet against, as well. However, we saw with Union Rags last week that you don't need to be 100% when you have that kind of class.

Don't like Dan and Shelia at all. Lecomte has been a very unproductive race. It appears, in my opinion, to be Hansen or boxcars. Don't care much for the medium priced runners.

lemoncrush 03-03-2012 10:02 AM

In the Gotham, I'm on Stealcase and Suns out Guns out, along with Mann, buy expect the first two mentioned to come down from their ML odds. And I'm against calbriacoa today. Think he regresses off last and his every other race beyer pattern is pretty evident. I'm singling Emcee in the pk4, as I think he just runs away and hides.

Split Rock 03-03-2012 03:14 PM

Wanted to post my actual pick 4 play in advance. Not likely to be a big deal as my top choice and 9-5 favorite won the first leg.

$160
1,6,9,12 with 2,4,5,6 with 2,4,7,12,13 with 7,10,12 13.

After reading everyone's ideas, I added Emcee in the Tom Fool, just as a defensive play.
Probably looking at getting less than my bet back if I hit. Vulnerable in last two legs (my last throwout to narrow my ticket was Slide Road in the Gotham).

jms62 03-03-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split Rock (Post 842935)
Wanted to post my actual pick 4 play in advance. Not likely to be a big deal as my top choice and 9-5 favorite won the first leg.

$160
1,6,9,12 with 2,4,5,6 with 2,4,7,12,13 with 7,10,12 13.

After reading everyone's ideas, I added Emcee in the Tom Fool, just as a defensive play.
Probably looking at getting less than my bet back if I hit. Vulnerable in last two legs (my last throwout to narrow my ticket was Slide Road in the Gotham).

Hey fuknut... You had a 252.00 play posted on your site today...

The Bid 03-03-2012 05:17 PM

how many posts did you put Hansen in winner circle pg

rgustafson 03-03-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split Rock (Post 842935)
Wanted to post my actual pick 4 play in advance. Not likely to be a big deal as my top choice and 9-5 favorite won the first leg.

$160
1,6,9,12 with 2,4,5,6 with 2,4,7,12,13 with 7,10,12 13.

After reading everyone's ideas, I added Emcee in the Tom Fool, just as a defensive play.
Probably looking at getting less than my bet back if I hit. Vulnerable in last two legs (my last throwout to narrow my ticket was Slide Road in the Gotham).


It's interesting, hindsight is always perfect, but if you had structured your original ticket like the Fountain of Youth where you singled Union Rags, a horse that Hansen beat, instead of spreading all over the place, you would have made some money. I took two horses in the race in the Riders Up pick four contest on pace advantage and that cost me because I missed the winner in the nightcap. You wonder sometimes if we overthink a race. Hansen stumbled at the start of The Holy Bull and came up short to a very highly thought of horse in Algorhythms. The connections are a little concerned about facing him and Union Rags in the Fountain of Youth, so they decide to ship to Aqueduct to face next to nothing in the Gotham since Alpha has skipped the race to go on to the Wood Memorial. What do we need, a road map????????????????? :D

Split Rock 03-03-2012 07:58 PM

It's funny how things work....

I put this pick 4 in at SA:

3,8,9,11,​WT,5,7,8,​WT,1,5,6,7,8,​WT,3 - Singled Ron the Greek. Of course, only race I missed was where i was 5 deep in an 8 horse field. Silly---Just hit the all button. Left $1,000 on the table.

Fulla Sheets 03-03-2012 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split Rock (Post 843086)
It's funny how no one cares about my redboards....

I put this pick 4 in at SA:

3,8,9,11,​WT,5,7,8,​WT,1,5,6,7,8,​WT,3 - Singled Ron the Greek. Of course, only race I missed was where i was 5 deep in an 8 horse field. Silly---Just hit the all button. Left $1,000 on the table.

FTFY

Split Rock 03-03-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulla Sheets (Post 843109)
FTFY

Either waffles or bicycle spokes.

geeker2 03-03-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split Rock (Post 843086)
It's funny how things work....

I put this pick 4 in at SA:

3,8,9,11,​WT,5,7,8,​WT,1,5,6,7,8,​WT,3 - Singled Ron the Greek. Of course, only race I missed was where i was 5 deep in an 8 horse field. Silly---Just hit the all button. Left $1,000 on the table.

Bummer...if you just had included the winner you would have won !! :rolleyes:

dagolfer33 03-03-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 843201)
Bummer...if you just had included the winner you would have won !! :rolleyes:

I'm thinking.......there must be a cheaper way to make it look like you were about to win something.....but maybe its just me.

Split Rock 03-04-2012 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 843202)
I'm thinking.......there must be a cheaper way to make it look like you were about to win something.....but maybe its just me.

I don't understand your comment.... are you trying to indicate I didn't make that wager?

Coach Pants 03-04-2012 07:26 AM

Split Rock reacts to hitting Aqueduct Pick 4...

http://youtu.be/9yvvSy7AIpI

Rudeboyelvis 03-04-2012 07:51 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf21gUIxt10

Coach Pants 03-04-2012 07:55 AM

Who does he think I am? You are!

Split Rock 03-04-2012 03:25 PM

Why do people always question whether someone made a bet or not? It's weird....now I'm getting accussed for not making a bet that I didn't win? Makes me wonder if you guys just talk about what you would have bet but don't actually wager....if that's the case...so be it....just thought there were more serious players here

jms62 03-04-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split Rock (Post 843367)
Why do people always question whether someone made a bet or not? It's weird....now I'm getting accussed for not making a bet that I didn't win? Makes me wonder if you guys just talk about what you would have bet but don't actually wager....if that's the case...so be it....just thought there were more serious players here

You are a fuking fraud!!!!. You post bets on your site that are different then here then past post post other bets here. Let me tell you something douchebag, if you ever think of charging people for your service I will spend money out of my own pocket to open a site to point out what a ****ing fraud you are. And I will bet everything I have I will out rank you in search engine results.

Split Rock 03-04-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 843393)
You are a fuking fraud!!!!. You post bets on your site that are different then here then past post post other bets here. Let me tell you something douchebag, if you ever think of charging people for your service I will spend money out of my own pocket to open a site to point out what a ****ing fraud you are. And I will bet everything I have I will out rank you in search engine results.

Makes sense....obviously you're a stable person.

I post bets different here? Are you retarded? Are you? Do you even read what you type? Never in my life have I done that. Only imbasils like you would care to do that.

I have an idea...stay on your meds.

(and by the way--- I'm quite certain there is "no money in your pocket" to spend on a site. Now THAT is a sure bet)


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