Tampa Bay 5th

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Just watched the replay - how in the hell Goncalves not only doesn't go ass over teakettle into the rail coming out of the chute, but manages a closing 4th is beyond any plausible explanation. Well bred firster mentioned by Hossy (Ransom Canyon) gets it done @ 8-1.

Credit to Goncalves for getting back in the irons and persisting with the horse. Many would have stopped riding at that moment and rushed back to the room to change their drawers.

That said, I hope Ian Wilkes keeps NBA Money at the MSW level. He has the look of a longtime maiden, unless he gets some class relief soon. He is running just well enough to take money, which are the types I love to play against.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Credit to Goncalves for getting back in the irons and persisting with the horse. Many would have stopped riding at that moment and rushed back to the room to change their drawers.

That said, I hope Ian Wilkes keeps NBA Money at the MSW level. He has the look of a longtime maiden, unless he gets some class relief soon. He is running just well enough to take money, which are the types I love to play against.

I dunno, Mike - I may beg to differ - I'm betting that cost him dearly...took him completely out of his game and spotted the field 6-8 lengths, still managed to rally, finishing better than anyone else (covering ground-wise)... I was thinking the opposite, he has the look of a career MSW lifer on paper and will be over looked next time out, but I'm thinking he's worth using at a nice price next time

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I dunno, Mike - I may beg to differ - I'm betting that cost him dearly...took him completely out of his game and spotted the field 6-8 lengths, still managed to rally, finishing better than anyone else (covering ground-wise)... I was thinking the opposite, he has the look of a career MSW lifer on paper and will be over looked next time out, but I'm thinking he's worth using at a nice price next time

He will not be overlooked next out, unless there are a couple beasts in against him. If he runs against the same type group, he will be one of the favorites.

It's not like he has any speed. The bump knocked him back to last where he was probably going to end up anyway. It's a sucker trouble line when a horse that has no speed gets bothered at the start. He made the same closing move on Dec 10 and the public jumped on him the next out where he couldn't hit the board against arguably a slightly better group that the previous race. The competition is only going to get tougher as some of the late bloomers hit the track, then soon enough, he'll have to beat older horses too.

Speaking in Beyer terms as that seems to be the most common way to compare. He got a 50 for his efforts yesterday so in his three tries at Tampa, he is going backwards from a 59 to a 54 to a troubled 50. You aren't winning a straight 3yr old MSW at Tampa running in the 50's. Closing kick or not.

Unless he gets some class relief, he is not getting a dime of my money.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

He will not be overlooked next out, unless there are a couple beasts in against him. If he runs against the same type group, he will be one of the favorites.

It's not like he has any speed. The bump knocked him back to last where he was probably going to end up anyway. It's a sucker trouble line when a horse that has no speed gets bothered at the start. He made the same closing move on Dec 10 and the public jumped on him the next out where he couldn't hit the board against arguably a slightly better group that the previous race. The competition is only going to get tougher as some of the late bloomers hit the track, then soon enough, he'll have to beat older horses too.

Speaking in Beyer terms as that seems to be the most common way to compare. He got a 50 for his efforts yesterday so in his three tries at Tampa, he is going backwards from a 59 to a 54 to a troubled 50. You aren't winning a straight 3yr old MSW at Tampa running in the 50's. Closing kick or not.

Unless he gets some class relief, he is not getting a dime of my money.

Trakus has him moving the 2nd best (to the eventual winner) @ the 7/8th and tiring in the last 1/8th covering 16 more ft than the winner - anyone's guess what that took out of him...Horvat Clan covered 21 more ft and was beaten a length, so that would be another "bad trip type" bet back, though probably no price on him...It will be interesting to see both of them run back - I'll be using both

Also worth noting - Chief Redneck, 3rd beaten 1 1/4 lengths - covered 11 less ft than the winner

There is my toss next time he runs

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Trakus has him moving the 2nd best (to the eventual winner) @ the 7/8th and tiring in the last 1/8th covering 16 more ft than the winner - anyone's guess what that took out of him...Horvat Clan covered 21 more ft and was beaten a length, so that would be another "bad trip type" bet back, though probably no price on him...It will be interesting to see both of them run back - I'll be using both

Also worth noting - Chief Redneck, 3rd beaten 1 1/4 lengths - covered 11 less ft than the winner

There is my toss next time he runs

I actually like Chief Redneck going forward. Being hounded by a 60 something to 1 horse a few times, while making his first start going two turns, I thought he ran well. He didn't pack it in either, he fought a bit.

I even think Score One might be worth watching next time because he was the horse that bumped with NBA Money. At the very least you know Score One is going to be a price next time.

[Bigsmc]

After his afternoon swim with Leandro Goncalves on friday , Exacta Bob reports that Goncalves is still pissed at Mike Allen for running him into the rail.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

After his afternoon swim with Leandro Goncalves on friday , Exacta Bob reports that Goncalves is still pissed at Mike Allen for running him into the rail.

That may be just a little Creepy

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Also worth noting - Chief Redneck, 3rd beaten 1 1/4 lengths - covered 11 less ft than the winner

There is my toss next time he runs

Today's your day to toss.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

That said, I hope Ian Wilkes keeps NBA Money at the MSW level. He has the look of a longtime maiden, unless he gets some class relief soon. He is running just well enough to take money, which are the types I love to play against.

He found the proper field. Firsters second and third behind him.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

He found the proper field. Firsters second and third behind him.