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[wiphan]

Originally Posted by 3kings

Let's revisit this in July. I think he struggles with everyone, that is not a Brewer fan, taunting him and throwing syringes at him. He doesn't have Fielder to protect him and he has a lot of extra pressure. He had a career year last year that would have been hard to duplicate any way. I say his numbers drop by at least 25%.

Take a look at Braun's numbers so far in 2012. Not too shabby with no help around him

.331 average 11 hrs, 28 RBI's .402 OBP

Ramirez behind him is batting .218
weeks infront .154, morgan infront .214

So much for his numbers dropping. Anyone still think he was juicing?

[slotdirt]

*raises hand*

I sure do. Then again, I've never believed the Palmeiros and Contadors of the world when they tried to explain away their positives.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

*raises hand*

I sure do. Then again, I've never believed the Palmeiros and Contadors of the world when they tried to explain away their positives.

I do too and also believe he is probably still "juicing" to some extent. Jucing is a very vague term. Can we all agree that most athletes (as well as horse trainers) push the envelope as far as they can? Some occasionally get caught. I guess it is not juicing if you don't get caught.

The name of the game is winning and people will take every advantage they can get. Sometimes they push it too far.

Pay the consequences as dictated by the sport you are participating in and move on.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Take a look at Braun's numbers so far in 2012. Not too shabby with no help around him

.331 average 11 hrs, 28 RBI's .402 OBP

Ramirez behind him is batting .218
weeks infront .154, morgan infront .214

So much for his numbers dropping. Anyone still think he was juicing?

Yes, I think he was juicing. It's a long season and steroids help the most with recovery. Let's just hope the cheating prick starts breaking down like the rest of the cheaters when they quit. He is younger than most cheaters so it may take a little longer.

[declansharbor]

Count me as one who DOESNT believe he was/is cheating, even before he vehemently denied the accusations.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by 3kings

Yes, I think he was juicing. It's a long season and steroids help the most with recovery. Let's just hope the cheating prick starts breaking down like the rest of the cheaters when they quit. He is younger than most cheaters so it may take a little longer.

Wow you have some hate for Braun.

[slotdirt]

I also think he'd probably been "juicing" in some form or fashion for his entire career, but what do I know?

[3kings]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Wow you have some hate for Braun.

It's not hate for Braun. I don't like people who cheat and get off on a technicality. This goes for any walk of life not just athletes. It is similar to people who sue when they know that they were at fault or caused the problem.