Johnny V: Innocent victim of Maragh payback?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

Because yes, what horse racing needs is more public accusations of cheating, stealing, and endangering the lives of horses and men.



So sorry you are unable to detect sarcasm.

This makes sense, the guy feels that another jock endangered his life but he should keep his mouth shut to prevent the public from having a bad image of the game? Just sweep it under the rug, great solution!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

This makes sense, the guy feels that another jock endangered his life but he should keep his mouth shut to prevent the public from having a bad image of the game? Just sweep it under the rug, great solution!

Jump to wrong conclusions much?

Who is sweeping it under the rug? Not me. He's meeting with the stewards Wednesday. Yeah, he should have kept his mouth shut before that.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

Because yes, what horse racing needs is more public accusations of cheating, stealing, and endangering the lives of horses and men.



So sorry you are unable to detect sarcasm.

Originally Posted by Riot

Jump to wrong conclusions much?

Who is sweeping it under the rug? Not me. He's meeting with the stewards Wednesday. Yeah, he should have kept his mouth shut before that.

Do you read your own posts? You clearly stated that JV was wrong for making a public accusation as the game does not need more public accusations of these things. That is a suggestion that it should be swept under the rug.

JV has every right to make a public statement when he believes that someone intentionally put his, and other jocks, lives in danger in a race. And no, I don't jump to wrong conclusions, though I believe that you delivered this insult in desperation since you have nothing of substance to state in your defense. Then again, you have proven that your logic is so twisted that it is difficult for anyone to make assumptions regarding any of the utter nonsense you continuously spew on this website daily.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Do you read your own posts? You clearly stated that JV was wrong for making a public accusation as the game does not need more public accusations of these things. That is a suggestion that it should be swept under the rug..

It's clear you don't read my posts. Or you simply are unable to understand them.

I said Johnny was unprofessional to make the public accusation of another jock deliberately threatening the lives of the jocks and horses at the press conference. They are meeting with the stewards Wednesday. He should have waited until then to publicly discuss the results.

No "sweeping under the rug" involved.

You want to talk "utter nonsense spewed on this website", we only have to read what some of you say when you are talking drugs and magic juice and horse health problems.

Originally Posted by Riot

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

You want to talk "utter nonsense spewed on this website", we only have to read what some of you say when you are talking drugs and magic juice and horse health problems.

Who is WE?

so there are no chemists or horsemen who have created 3rd, 4th, 5th generation performance enhancing drugs that cannot be tested for and apply them to their race horses?

and you can certainly tell everyone that Uncle Mo is fine, without looking at the horse, vet exams, blood results? because it's all black and white

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's clear you don't read my posts. Or you simply are unable to understand them.

I said Johnny was unprofessional to make the public accusation of another jock deliberately threatening the lives of the jocks and horses at the press conference. They are meeting with the stewards Wednesday. He should have waited until then to publicly discuss the results.

No "sweeping under the rug" involved.

It is clear that you can't read and continuously shift issues, deflect and insult others in a vain attempt to dig yourself out of the latest hole you have dug yourself in. I put your own words in front of you and you still can't admit to that you clearly stated. Whatever state licensed you should be ashamed of themselves.

I will make this as simple as possible for you to understand. There was nothing unprofessional about what JV stated, he had every right to state it and should be praised for doing so, not critcized by a jackass such as yourself. If you can't understand that, I cannot help you. Just like a liberal jackass to make the victim the one in the wrong.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

It is clear that you can't read and continuously shift issues, deflect and insult others in a vain attempt to dig yourself out of the latest hole you have dug yourself in. .

Hole? LOL - I made one clear statement. I think it was unprofessional of Johnny V. to accuse Rajiv in the press, before the stewards meeting Wednesday.

You would know about shifting, deflecting and insulting. You've given a laughable demonstration of your skills at it over the past several pages.

This is like going to a blind dentist.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

Hole? LOL - I made one clear statement. I think it was unprofessional of Johnny V. to accuse Rajiv in the press, before the stewards meeting Wednesday.

You would know about shifting, deflecting and insulting. You've given a laughable demonstration of your skills at it over the past several pages.

You are proof that you cannot argue logic with those who are illogical. You are right, it is clear that my posts are laughable and yours are not.

The only thing that you have demonstrated is that it is you who should be drug tested before we have to suffer anymore of your moronic twisted logic.

[slotdirt]

As I was saying about obfuscation...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

As I was saying about obfuscation...

Watching some of you guys is like watching a bunch of nine-year-olds trying desperately to maintain their importance and rule on the playground

[slotdirt]

Watching Riot is like trying to understand the homeless man in Lafayette Park explaining how long and for what purpose the government has been listening to his thoughts through tiny radio chips implanted in his mercury-filled cavities.

Originally Posted by Riot

Watching some of you guys is like watching a bunch of nine-year-olds trying desperately to maintain their importance and rule on the playground

Figures a brain dead lard ass such as yourself would be watching people exercise.

[iamthelurker]

Yeah because a pro like Johnny Velazquez needs to hear what the stewards say before he can actually know when a guy pulls a bush league "i'm upset" move 3 jumps after his horse breaks straight. If you knew anything at all you would recognize exactly what happened and be calling Rajiv unprofessional, not one of the most professional riders in the game.

[Kasept]

Rich Migliore was rather definitive today on ATR about the video evidence showing Maragh's intent and completely supported Velazquez and his justifiable anger over the ridiculously dangerous and amateurish action. Hour 2. As I mentioned today, there is a Jerry Bailey corollary to this situation.

Meanwhile, all the focus on this incident has overshadowed the day's earlier jockey hijinx which saw David Cohen (Not Now Ashley) nearly send Javier Castellano over the rail on Crushing in the 2nd race. Castellano checked up before drawing nearly even inside Not Now Ashley before Cohen abruptly shut him off. Castellano and Chad Brown were none too pleased, and Brown was already unhappy with Castellano's choices last week on firster Self Control. Will be interested to see if Cohen gets a benching for his stunt.

[randallscott35]

As someone who bet Self Control it took all my Self Control not to smash the TV with a horse 5 length best and Javy doing his thing.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Rich Migliore was rather definitive today on ATR about the video evidence showing Maragh's intent and completely supported Velazquez and his justifiable anger over the ridiculously dangerous and amateurish action. Hour 2. As I mentioned today, there is a Jerry Bailey corollary to this incident.

Meanwhile, all the focus on this incident has overshadowed the day's earlier jockey hijinx which saw David Cohen (Not Now Ashley) nearly send Javier Castellano over the rail on Crushing in the 2nd race. Castellano checked up repeatedly before drawing nearly even inside Not Now Ashley before Cohen abruptly shut him off. Castellano and Chad Brown were none too pleased, and Brown was already unhappy with Castellano's choices last week on firster Self Control. Will be interested to see if Cohen gets a benching for his stunt.

Unfortunately I did not get to hear this until my ride home from work due to the Sirius changes. Mig was terrific in his explanation and separation between fact and opinion. Mig's conclusion is wholly warranted and, unlike others on this board, supported with circumstantial factual evidence. Great work with this issue today Steve!

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Rich Migliore was rather definitive today on ATR about the video evidence showing Maragh's intent and completely supported Velazquez and his justifiable anger over the ridiculously dangerous and amateurish action. Hour 2. As I mentioned today, there is a Jerry Bailey corollary to this situation.

Interesting take by Mig on this. If you remember back in 1981 Angel purposely herded a horse Rich was on for Bob Debonis leaving the gate because Angel felt the new kid was getting too much praise. What made matters worse was Cordero just about trumpeted that he would do it. I would love to hear if Rich remembers that incident.