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Old 11-07-2010, 10:25 AM
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If one reads Seth Hancock's comments on Blame, he agrees that his horse is the obvious choice. I think Blame deserves it, but think there are way too many turf writers out there who think Zenyatta needs some sort of lifetime achievement award that Blame is going to finish second.
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I know what HOY, but now Im asking you a serious question. Do you think Blame is better?
I don't know. I think it's close either way. If she's better than him it's not by much.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:27 AM
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If one reads Seth Hancock's comments on Blame, he agrees that his horse is the obvious choice. I think Blame deserves it, but think there are way too many turf writers out there who think Zenyatta needs some sort of lifetime achievement award that Blame is going to finish second.

This is really all Im saying, I agree with this thinking...
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:28 AM
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This is really all Im saying, I agree with this thinking...
And it's terrible, idiotic, completely unjust thinking if you believe she should get it as a lifetime achievement award.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:30 AM
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And it's terrible, idiotic, completely unjust thinking if you believe she should get it as a lifetime achievement award.

I think I would agree Blame had a better year. He beat QR on the square... He won the CLassic. I would not have any problem if they give it to Z though. I think its legit that it could happen.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:39 AM
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I think I would agree Blame had a better year. I would not have any problem if they give it to Z though.
How on earth do you write these two sentences in one post about HORSE OF THE YEAR?
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:41 AM
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How on earth do you write these two sentences in one post about HORSE OF THE YEAR?
You know what Im trying to say.
Its an injustice if she never gets a HOY awards. Blame is slow and would be the worst HOY I can recall, likely ever.... Give it to big Z.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:46 AM
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If one reads Seth Hancock's comments on Blame, he agrees that his horse is the obvious choice. I think Blame deserves it, but think there are way too many turf writers out there who think Zenyatta needs some sort of lifetime achievement award that Blame is going to finish second.
Isn't hall of fame the lifetime achievement award and not HOY?? I dont' get that. Zenyatta will will certainly get her lifetime achievement award when that time comes. It would be comparable to Nebraska winning the national championship in 1994 as people felt sorry for Osborne for never having won one at that point instead of giving it to the best team.
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I think I would agree Blame had a better year. He beat QR on the square... He won the CLassic. I would not have any problem if they give it to Z though. I think its legit that it could happen.
I think it could happen, but it wouldn't be legit.
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Isn't hall of fame the lifetime achievement award and not HOY?? I dont' get that. Zenyatta will will certainly get her lifetime achievement award when that time comes. It would be comparable to Nebraska winning the national championship in 1994 as people felt sorry for Osborne for never having won one at that point instead of giving it to the best team.
Zenyatta and Rachel will be up for Hall of Fame nomination in the same year. The voting on that will be interesting.
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I think it could happen, but it wouldn't be legit.

The sport would be saved from its worst HOY ever.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:58 AM
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The sport would be saved from its worst HOY ever.
Really? The horse was babied a bit, but 9 for 13 and never out of the money in his career isn't disastrous. He beat older's twice on two different surfaces quite easily at 3. He's pretty good.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:59 AM
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The sport would be saved from its worst HOY ever.
You have to start thinking with your head instead of your heart.

Why did the Moss's decide to send Zenyatta to the BC? Answer - a win would sew up HOY. That's been their frustrated quest for the past 3 years. She didn't get it done. Should she win HOY based on lifetime achievement? That isn't what HOY is about, and you know it. Her races prior to the Classic were not worthy of HOY contemplation. A loss in the Classic, regardless of how close she came to winning, is not a good enough reason to vote her HOY. I would be surprised if she does win. Not saying it's not possible - just not probable.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:20 AM
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Isn't hall of fame the lifetime achievement award and not HOY?? I dont' get that. Zenyatta will will certainly get her lifetime achievement award when that time comes. It would be comparable to Nebraska winning the national championship in 1994 as people felt sorry for Osborne for never having won one at that point instead of giving it to the best team.
Now you understand the concept of Zenyattard!
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Well, we already know how dummies like Joe Drape and Jay Hovdey are voting, so I'd say Zenyatta is still going to get HOTY for beating Switch and Rinterval a few times. Whether she deserves it for her 2010 campaign or not is an entirely different conversation.
I doubt that Drape and Hovdey voted for RA last year.
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The sport would be saved from its worst HOY ever.
This is a truly bad opinion. Get some perspective man, a lot happened before 2003.
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The sport would be saved from its worst HOY ever.

It's funny you think Quality Road and Lookin at Lucky would be worthy, yet Blame literally knocks Lookin at Lucky out of the way, and a search party is looking for Quality Road and Blame who urinated on both of them
isn't worthy?
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Charismatic?
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:03 PM
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Go to Blames FB page. Not only is he HOY, but he is the greatest warrior to race yesterday....
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:04 PM
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Charismatic?

He did win 2/3 the triple crown...
Id rather see Eskendereya win it, he is forgotten, but still the best horse that ran this year.
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