Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

[miraja2]

I find the Koran-burning pastor issue fascinating because it doesn't neatly divide people into their usual ideological camps.

You have people on the right who support him because they vehemently oppose the mosque in NYC specifically and Islam in general. But you have other people on the right who oppose him because Petraeus (and others) say it jeopardizes troop safety.

Then on the left, you have those that oppose him because they see it as just more right-wing, anti-Islam nonsense. But you also have those on the left that support him because they don't particularly enjoy the military telling people when it is okay for people to exercise their rights.

Interesting issue.

[GBBob]

If you can support the right to build the Mosque, I'm not sure how you can oppose his right to burn Quarans. Freedoms are freedoms, whether you believe they are right or not.

[Danzig]

sure, he has a right to do this. i'd rather he burned a bunch of copies of james joyces ulysses, but that's just me.
seriously, i find anyone burning books to be ridiculous-but they have a right to do so-just like those dipshits who protest at servicemens funerals have the right to trample on our flag. it's to cause a reaction, looks like it's working.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sure, he has a right to do this. i'd rather he burned a bunch of copies of james joyces ulysses, but that's just me.
seriously, i find anyone burning books to be ridiculous-but they have a right to do so-just like those dipshits who protest at servicemens funerals have the right to trample on our flag. it's to cause a reaction, looks like it's working.

It's all Constitution based...as long as certain groups want to interpret it literally despite the fact it was written when no one could imagine what the World would be like now, then they better accept it when it doesn't happen to line up with their beliefs..quid pro quo

[Danzig]

everyone seems to have a problem with some part of the constitution-it's why i'm glad they made it difficult to change. it's not supposed to change on a whim; or because a group finds part of it unpopular when their opponent is supported by it! it's just as important now as it was then to protect everyone's rights, not just some. after all, just about every one of us is a member of a group that has been hassled for one reason or another at some point in history. you don't have to be popular to keep your rights.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Freedoms are freedoms, whether you believe they are right or not.

Not if David Petraeus and the State Department tell you not to exercise that freedom. In that case....you should get life in prison for burning your own property.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Not if David Petraeus and the State Department tell you not to exercise that freedom. In that case....you should get life in prison for burning your own property.

I didnt need Patraeus to say a god damn word to know how this will effect the middle east. I was equally pissed off when CNN and Fox and everyone were reporting in depth about how terrible we were in Iraq taking pictures of prisoners.

Dont report it. Its nobody's business to know. Punish the people responsible & keep it under wraps. There is no reason to give the radical muslims more reasons to hate us. I wrote CNN letting them know they have blood on their hands (and the other media outlets).

[miraja2]

I just don't think it makes sense to give up legal freedoms because some other dangerous people don't like it. In my opinion, any person in this country should be free to burn any inanimate object that they rightfully own. Therefore, I strongly disagree with your earlier suggestion that a prison sentence is a suitable punishment for someone engaging in such an act.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

If you can support the right to build the Mosque, I'm not sure how you can oppose his right to burn Quarans. Freedoms are freedoms, whether you believe they are right or not.

bump for BWS

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

bump for BWS

Are you drinking? I'm glad you bumped a post for me that said exactly what I said in the other thread, since I never said they shouldn't or couldn't burn the Koran.

[Danzig]

im not sure that the zealots could be induced to hate us any more than they do....we've invaded countries and are israels biggest ally...just how much worse could this make it?

[Nascar1966]

My lunch has just been ruined. I just woke up to eat and this sorry excuse of a President is on TV howing how much of a imdecile he is and what a misleading liar he is. I will give him credit for letting Fox News to be at the news conference. They should build this mosque next to the White House instead of Ground Zero.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

My lunch has just been ruined. I just woke up to eat and this sorry excuse of a President is on TV howing how much of a imdecile he is and what a misleading liar he is. I will give him credit for letting Fox News to be at the news conference. They should build this mosque next to the White House instead of Ground Zero.

I must say that of all the words you have simply made up, "imdecile" might be my favorite.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

My lunch has just been ruined. I just woke up to eat and this sorry excuse of a President is on TV howing how much of a imdecile he is and what a misleading liar he is. I will give him credit for letting Fox News to be at the news conference. They should build this mosque next to the White House instead of Ground Zero.

you just woke up at 12:15?

please tell us you live on the west coast!