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Old 06-15-2010, 06:26 PM
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And some clown counters Steve "F******" Davidovitz's opinion with a dozen females better than her in the past thirty years? Child, please. That's just rabid RA fandomness.
Now you have an idea what I have had to put up with around here.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:58 PM
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:42 PM
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Now you have an idea what I have had to put up with around here.

no, what you get to put up with!
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:20 PM
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17 times. A deep closer. Has never taken a day off. Has never "just not fired." Has never been a pace victim. Loses ground on every turn for home. Still runs them down like dogs. Like dirty dogs. 17 times. In a row. That's every time she's raced. Man, this horse is terrible.

It seems like the RA fans (of which I'm one as well) really want to meet Zenyatta, as long as it's under their terms, of course: dirt, X amount of panels, out East, when RA's fit enough, etc. Rachel was electrifying last year, but you have to respect Zenyatta for what she is. She's a fire-breathing monster.

And some clown counters Steve "F******" Davidovitz's opinion with a dozen females better than her in the past thirty years? Child, please. That's just rabid RA fandomness.



Outstanding entry, sir


Yeah, DuhTruth's post was funny … but it was absolutely hilarious to see a guy like Indian Loser ripping Davidowitz.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:55 PM
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Well he works for Bodog so his reputation is beyond repute.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:28 PM
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Outstanding entry, sir


Yeah, DuhTruth's post was funny … but it was absolutely hilarious to see a guy like Indian Loser ripping Davidowitz.
I am happy for you.

Happy that you are so easily amused.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:19 PM
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I've seen them all and would like to see that race.

17 times Zenyatta has found a way to get to the wire and if she were to race against this group I think she would be in a tight photo for the bottom of the superfecta.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:20 PM
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My gawd please make it stop.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:28 PM
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My gawd please make it stop.
Oh, why? This is fun. This is what being a sports fan is about. Ali or Tyson? Mantle or Mays? Gretzky or Lemieux?
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:48 AM
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My gawd please make it stop.
So we can talk about how important the 3rd leg of the triple crown is.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:42 PM
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if she were to race against this group I think she would be in the photo for the the win.
I agree if the Goodyear Blimp pilot takes the photo.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:40 PM
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I agree if the Goodyear Blimp pilot takes the photo.
I laughed.
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Old 06-15-2010, 04:41 PM
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all i can say is he must be very, very young. no, really, i have no idea how old he is....i do know he's giving new meaning to the word 'hyperbole'. i think she's good, very good actually. best race mare? no. not of my lifetime, of a three month olds lifetime, maybe. one of the top horses since those in the '70's??? i guess it depends on how long of a list you make.
Thats pretty much what I was thinking. I mean, are we just talking horses that have run here or are we talking about european horses as well? Can you really put her up there with:

Holy Bull, Ghostzapper, Alysheba, skip away, sunday silence, easy goer, cigar?

Those are US based horses I came up with off the top of my head and I'm sure you can think of a bunch more. Internationally, you would be hardpressed to put her in with these Mares:

Zarkhava, islington, goldikova, makybe Diva, Sunline, ouija board

I love Z but at the same time you have to be realistic. I think I can put her with some of the best mares in the last 30 years to run in the US but i have a hard time putting her up there with those horses named.
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:27 PM
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all i can say is he must be very, very young. no, really, i have no idea how old he is....i do know he's giving new meaning to the word 'hyperbole'. i think she's good, very good actually. best race mare? no. not of my lifetime, of a three month olds lifetime, maybe. one of the top horses since those in the '70's??? i guess it depends on how long of a list you make.
Danzig, he's actually had 40 + yrs experience watching and handicapping horses, he has written a book called “Betting Thoroughbreds for the 21st Century.” and was featured in a Q&A in the N.Y Times.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ve-davidowitz/
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:31 PM
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Danzig, he's actually had 40 + yrs experience watching and handicapping horses, he has written a book called “Betting Thoroughbreds for the 21st Century.” and was featured in a Q&A in the N.Y Times.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ve-davidowitz/
well, we all know about what opinions are like. i disagree with his on this for sure.
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Danzig, he's actually had 40 + yrs experience watching horses, he has written a book called “Betting Thoroughbreds for the 21st Century.” and was featured in a Q&A in the N.Y Times.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ve-davidowitz/
Davidowitz is a widely respected racing writer, which makes his statement even more outlandish as I expected him to show better judgment.
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:36 PM
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Davidowitz is a widely respected racing writer, which makes his statement even more outlandish as I expected him to show better judgment.
That's fair enough, there are enough that more or less agree with him like Steve Crist. That's 2 that probably have more combined knowledge in the game than probably in this entire room. Well that is hyperbole to be honest but not too far fetched.
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That's fair enough, there are enough that more or less agree with him like Steve Crist. That's 2 that probably have more combined knowledge in the game than probably in this entire room. Well that is hyperbole to be honest but not too far fetched.
The first edition of Davidowitz's Betting Thoroughbreds was an early read when I was cutting my teeth in this game.
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The first edition of Davidowitz's Betting Thoroughbreds was an early read when I was cutting my teeth in this game.
People are so quick to dismiss someone without knowing what the guy's resume is, like writing books and even teaching the one and only Andy Beyer certain betting strategies about the game is certainly not a lark, thus his opinion should be respected.
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People are so quick to dismiss someone without knowing what the guy's resume is, like writing books and even teaching the one and only Andy Beyer certain betting strategies about the game is certainly not a lark, thus his opinion should be respected.
Especially if he agrees with you.

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