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Originally Posted by kgar311

Thats the Rachel we all know, bring on Zenyatta now. She wants no part of this Rachel

Out of hiding, here we go.

Aleast all was not lost today, it was special seeing the new superstar Unrivaled Belle come on back down to earth.

[TitanSooner]

didn't they already bring on Zenyatta?

[pointman]

At least we know one thing, the Rockies will get much higher if Zenyatta loses today.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by pointman

At least we know one thing, the Rockies will get much higher if Zenyatta loses today.

Zenyatta runs tomorrow...

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Zenyatta runs tomorrow...

Oops, tomorrow!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by CSC

Out of hiding, here we go.

Aleast all was not lost today, it was special seeing the new superstar Unrivaled Belle come on back down to earth.

Jump off a cliff. Rachel was awesome today, deal with it.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Jump off a cliff. Rachel was awesome today, deal with it.

Funny in YOUR world beating a group of gr.2 misfits constitutes a description of 'awesome' when another horse that beats a gr.1 field is described as beating crap. Do me a favor and take some of that free advice you like handing out.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by CSC

Funny in YOUR world beating a group of gr.2 misfits constitutes a description of 'awesome' when another horse that beats a gr.1 field is described as beating crap. Do me a favor and take some of that free advice you like handing out.

Great post!!

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Originally Posted by knickslions2

Great post!!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

17-0 is 17-0.

And people wonder where the Peppers Pride analogies come from.

Originally Posted by CSC

Funny in YOUR world beating a group of gr.2 misfits constitutes a description of 'awesome' when another horse that beats a gr.1 field is described as beating crap. Do me a favor and take some of that free advice you like handing out.

She set a fast pace, completely fractured a good horse in Jessica Is Back and blew the race open in the stretch to win by 10+ in 1:48 gathered up late. What more could she have done today?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

And people wonder where the Peppers Pride analogies come from.



She set a fast pace, completely fractured a good horse in Jessica Is Back and blew the race open in the stretch to win by 10+ in 1:48 gathered up late. What more could she have done today?

Most of us can read a racing chart.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by CSC

I can read a racing chart.

Good, because you sure as hell don't know how to watch a race.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Good, because you sure as hell don't know how to watch a race.

Ditto.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

And people wonder where the Peppers Pride analogies come from.



She set a fast pace, completely fractured a good horse in Jessica Is Back and blew the race open in the stretch to win by 10+ in 1:48 gathered up late. What more could she have done today?

She couldnt have done anything more than what she did today. I agree. But, Joey, do you really sincerely believe that Jessica is Back is a "good horse"? She is an allowance/stakes also ran that could just have easily been running for a tag yesterday.

This was a joke of a field and if Zenyatta beat this same field tomorrow at hollywood park, many would be asking to put an asterisk by the win.

I don't think there is any evidence that says this is the "real rachel" and the one that raced a month ago against Unrivaled belle was some type of impostor. She is the same filly. Its what was running behind her today that changed.

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

She couldnt have done anything more than what she did today. I agree. But, Joey, do you really sincerely believe that Jessica is Back is a "good horse"? She is an allowance/stakes also ran that could just have easily been running for a tag yesterday.

This was a joke of a field and if Zenyatta beat this same field tomorrow at hollywood park, many would be asking to put an asterisk by the win.

I don't think there is any evidence that says this is the "real rachel" and the one that raced a month ago against Unrivaled belle was some type of impostor. She is the same filly. Its what was running behind her today that changed.

Pleae don't bring logic into this argument.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

She couldnt have done anything more than what she did today. I agree. But, Joey, do you really sincerely believe that Jessica is Back is a "good horse"? She is an allowance/stakes also ran that could just have easily been running for a tag yesterday.

This was a joke of a field and if Zenyatta beat this same field tomorrow at hollywood park, many would be asking to put an asterisk by the win.

I don't think there is any evidence that says this is the "real rachel" and the one that raced a month ago against Unrivaled belle was some type of impostor. She is the same filly. Its what was running behind her today that changed.

St Trinians is better than Jessica Is Back? Show me the proof of that. I dare you. Rachel stepped forward today from the last two races. If you can't see that, I worry about your ability to watch races.

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

St Trinians is better than Jessica Is Back? Show me the proof of that. I dare you. Rachel stepped forward today from the last two races. If you can't see that, I worry about your ability to watch races.

Congratuations on being the biggest hypocrite on this board, if you can put down your poms poms for a moment, and take a step back you will notice St. Trinians is a grade 2 winner that beat the BC Distaff winner, has lost only once in NA, in a race a Gr.1 race against males where she was the favorite in which all her races till that point were easy wins.

What has the 6 yr old Jessica is Back done outside of Florida? How many graded stakes wins has she won? Her main claim to fame is finishing 2nd in the Gr.3 Sixty Sails. This to you means she is better than St. Trinians, if so I would love to hear why you think so...U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

St Trinians is better than Jessica Is Back? Show me the proof of that. I dare you. Rachel stepped forward today from the last two races. If you can't see that, I worry about your ability to watch races.

If St Trinians isnt better than Jessica is Back (which itself is extremely questionable), i would wager most would agree that Zardana certainly is. No? Show me proof she is not. i dare you.

You can question my race watching ability all you want and no doubt it is certainly questionable (ask youbet!) but what was so much better about that performance yesterday? She faced weaker company than she had previously faced and she was able to draw off in the stretch. In her last race, replace unrivaled belle with jessica is back or that other nag from yesterday and Rachel does the exact same thing. How is this better? Because her speed fig came out higher?

I don't want to get deep in to this whole "who is better" thing. I am just saying that Rachel did what she was supposed to do yesterday and she did it stylishly but you aren't going to be able to tell anything about where she is until you put a real horse in there against her as opposed to the claimers she beat yesterday. Is that not a fair statement?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

She couldnt have done anything more than what she did today. I agree. But, Joey, do you really sincerely believe that Jessica is Back is a "good horse"? She is an allowance/stakes also ran that could just have easily been running for a tag yesterday.

This was a joke of a field and if Zenyatta beat this same field tomorrow at hollywood park, many would be asking to put an asterisk by the win.

I don't think there is any evidence that says this is the "real rachel" and the one that raced a month ago against Unrivaled belle was some type of impostor. She is the same filly. Its what was running behind her today that changed.

I think the difference is that Zenyatta is at the top of her game and therefore could be in races like the Californian or pointed to the Gold Cup, Goodwood etc. and that is why most people are unsatisfied with her schedule.

I think most people who question her campaign do so out of a respect of Zenyatta's ability. She could be dominating races like the Grade 1s for males all year. At this point, I would take a shot against the Rail Trips and Blames of the equine world before I would run against the fillies and risk Zenyatta getting a terrible trip and one of the other fillies getting a dream trip and beating her.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I think the difference is that Zenyatta is at the top of her game and therefore could be in races like the Californian or pointed to the Gold Cup, Goodwood etc. and that is why most people are unsatisfied with her schedule.

I think most people who question her campaign do so out of a respect of Zenyatta's ability. She could be dominating races like the Grade 1s for males all year. At this point, I would take a shot against the Rail Trips and Blames of the equine world before I would run against the fillies and risk Zenyatta getting a terrible trip and one of the other fillies getting a dream trip and beating her.

If St. Trinians was in the Californian yesterday, she would have been the second choice and most likely the main opposition for Rail Trip. She shouldn't be confused with a Distinctive Dixie or Jessica is Back. This is a better challenge than most give it credit for, 9 lbs and all.