Derby futures

[philcski]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Bid, good luck in the derby. I have never once put anyone on the ignore list, I actually just found it and now you will be the first. Good Luck in the future.

Joe, you could learn a lot from the Bid. I'd recommend you rethink putting him on ignore and maybe listening a little more to why he's right.

And again... making selections 3 weeks before the race is run is probably a bad idea. I thought you were over that??

[The Bid]

Phil I appreciate that

Hes the guy that boxes 5 in an exacta and still misses. 7 horse field.

Not to mention with Dublin hes been ran in all the preps, hasn't won any. In fact, hasn't won since he was a juvy! Makes perfect sense to bet him in Derby. 20-1 IMO is a short price on him. He should be 60-1 at post and I still wouldnt use him in anything because hes a hopeless puke

[The Bid]

You cash more mythical wagers than anybody I have ever seen.

You have more money on horses you hate than any MF I have watched in here. You bashed VJ balls about Stately Victor, yet he wins and pays 80 and you have 10 accross on him. Then you hafta back peddle like Kenny Lofton because you look like a moron of epic proportions

Its too bad you don't bet exactas. I would follow you from track to track. Im sure your money shakes the board

[jimmy the T]

where is the ignore button on here?

[Scav]

I am pretty shocked that Dublin is still even running, let alone make the Derby.

[The Bid]

That horse isn't even on a ****** like yours radar without Vol Jack. Thats the point. You put yourself in a position that if the horse loses you jump jack and bash him,if it wins you loved him.

[The Bid]

Scav he wont win a race of merit as an older horse. I doubt he ever wins another graded stake, and he will never win a graded stake 1000000 percent past 7/8ths. That includes G3

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Scav he wont win a race of merit as an older horse. I doubt he ever wins another graded stake, and he will never win a graded stake 1000000 percent past 7/8ths. That includes G3

Dublin or Super Saver?

[The Bid]

Dublin

SS would at least get a look

[philcski]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not really an exacta player, and If Dublin did not run I would be the first on here. Hes not my main play or whatever I think the chalk will be really tough to beat, but like Ntamm said at or around 20-1 IMO hes worth using.

Seriously though, why Dublin? D. Wayne hasn't won a stakes race with a 3YO in like 8 years. Why not, say, Super Saver- who will be the same price, and has a win over the track, beat Dublin on the square, and a better chance to move up on Derby Day?

And again, while discussing contenders early especially in the Derby is important, don't lock yourself in 3 weeks out. Go back and watch every race. Digest the results and think about what really should happen. Formulate a way how each horse could potentially win. Step back and evaluate the prices at which these horses will be versus the way you decide each could potentially win. Remember the other day when you were supremely confident in Warrior's Reward? You gave a situation how and why he was going to win, at a bonus mutuel. Just because you bet Dublin in the Ark Derby doesn't mean you need to bet him again in the Ky Derby.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by philcski

Seriously though, why Dublin? D. Wayne hasn't won a stakes race with a 3YO in like 8 years. Why not, say, Super Saver- who will be the same price, and has a win over the track, beat Dublin on the square, and a better chance to move up on Derby Day?

And again, while discussing contenders early especially in the Derby is important, don't lock yourself in 3 weeks out. Go back and watch every race. Digest the results and think about what really should happen. Formulate a way how each horse could potentially win. Step back and evaluate the prices at which these horses will be versus the way you decide each could potentially win. Remember the other day when you were supremely confident in Warrior's Reward? You gave a situation how and why he was going to win, at a bonus mutuel. Just because you bet Dublin in the Ark Derby doesn't mean you need to bet him again in the Ky Derby.

Hush on Super Saver, although he should have cruised past that horse on Saturday, and he didn't gallop out that strong.

I am not sure what to think about the race.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

Hush on Super Saver, although he should have cruised past that horse on Saturday, and he didn't gallop out that strong.

I am not sure what to think about the race.

It was a strong performance from the winner, but a huge jump up. He'll go backwards in the Derby. I haven't watched the gallop out yet although that doesn't mean a whole lot to me usually (unless they look like they're going to fall apart.)

I don't think Super Saver is even good by any means. All I'm offering is a viable alternative to Dublin at roughly the same price to make PG think about his selections more.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by philcski

Joe, you could learn a lot from the Bid. I'd recommend you rethink putting him on ignore and maybe listening a little more to why he's right.

Phil, the Bid may sometimes have something to say, but he didn't say it well in this thread.

Originally Posted by The Bid

I do not mean that to be nasty but he has zero shot to factor or hit the board. Absolutely none

IMO saying "zero shot" is being clueless. I know The Bid is not clueless, but that post is.

I'm sure The Bid would not want to give me 50-1 on Dublin hitting the board. If he does, we can work something out so that he can make his no-risk 2% profit.

--Dunbar

[slotdirt]

Not to be nasty, but am I the only person who thought The Bid was a chick? I always get that poster and Linny confused for some reason.

Anywho, all of the nonsense from this weekend and last, and I keep coming back to Endorsement as a live horse on May 1.

[The Bid]

Dunbar

give me even money he hits the board. I'll give you top 4 slots. You pay double if he runs last 4 slots.

Theoretically they all have a shot it's a horserace. That said he'll be a total non factor when they turn for home. Be moonwalking like Michael Jackson (god rest his soul)

Endorsement, live

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Dunbar

give me even money he hits the board. I'll give you top 4 slots. You pay double if he runs last 4 slots.

Theoretically they all have a shot it's a horserace. That said he'll be a total non factor when they turn for home. Be moonwalking like Michael Jackson (god rest his soul)

Im more confident he is burning in hell...than u r of Dublin stinking up the track in the Derby.

[The Bid]

Lawd ha mercy

He stinks up every joint! You think he's gonna show up under those twinspires and run out of his mind. Mack will just be happy to show up there all the money he's blown.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Theoretically they all have a shot it's a horserace.

Good enough.


--Dunbar