Obamacare Bleeding Out

[Pants II]

It's funny people can defend this crippling disaster known as Obamacare.

A family member last year spent 9 days in the hospital for merely hpb. One of the highest rated hospitals in the state makes numerous mistakes for hbp.

Just a stroke of bad luck, I guess. I'm sure others have had wonderbra experiences with aca and health care in general. If they're not subsidized I'd love to hear their stories.

Or crickets chirping. Either/Or.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

It's funny people can defend this crippling disaster known as Obamacare.

A family member last year spent 9 days in the hospital for merely hpb. One of the highest rated hospitals in the state makes numerous mistakes for hbp.

Just a stroke of bad luck, I guess. I'm sure others have had wonderbra experiences with aca and health care in general. If they're not subsidized I'd love to hear their stories.

Or crickets chirping. Either/Or.

Had someone close to me get cancer last year. Paid about a grand out of pocket and still has health insurance. Treatment was basically 9 months including surgery/chemo/radiation. All on Unsubsidized policy.

[Pants II]

That's wonderful.

I would just like for you to clarify that "guaranteed renewable" and "affordable care act" don't have to co-exist.

You see the latter is all about expanding the welfare state. You know about the debt. All of the guaranteed health coverage your heart desires isn't going to save you from less access and longer lines. It's coming.

Specialists are retiring at a rate that is unprecedented. Common sense would tell you that the "working" man's standard of care is going to be lowered. If the government is going to continue to use subsidies then it's natural that cash-strapped hospitals will choose those who are fully subsidized.

Oh well. It's all about screwing the flyover states. You know...rural folks.

Gotta get them all in cities. For some odd reason.

Just keep appeasing to the socialists, jms. We'll all be extinct soon enough. But at least you'll be right in the short term.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

That's wonderful.

I would just like for you to clarify that "guaranteed renewable" and "affordable care act" don't have to co-exist.

You see the latter is all about expanding the welfare state. You know about the debt. All of the guaranteed health coverage your heart desires isn't going to save you from less access and longer lines. It's coming.

Specialists are retiring at a rate that is unprecedented. Common sense would tell you that the "working" man's standard of care is going to be lowered. If the government is going to continue to use subsidies then it's natural that cash-strapped hospitals will choose those who are fully subsidized.

Oh well. It's all about screwing the flyover states. You know...rural folks.

Gotta get them all in cities. For some odd reason.

Just keep appeasing to the socialists, jms. We'll all be extinct soon enough. But at least you'll be right in the short term.

And when it doesn't happen "long term" we will all forget these posts were never written. Can't be wrong if you kick the decision point far enough down the road. The process was broke long before ACA at least now we are truly insured for catastrophic occurrences. See ya in the selections thread coach.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by jms62

And when it doesn't happen "long term" we will all forget these posts were never written. Can't be wrong if you kick the decision point far enough down the road. The process was broke long before ACA at least now we are truly insured for catastrophic occurrences. See ya in the selections thread coach.

You're a better handicapper no need to subtly brag.


I think that's cowardice which is why I used cowed.

Keep shilling for more big gov.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

You're a better handicapper no need to subtly brag.


I think that's cowardice which is why I used cowed.

Keep shilling for more big gov.

Dude there is no way I would imply this to anyone.

[Pants II]

Well you are.

But this is about Obamacare not horsies.

I'm a good handicapper on this stuff.



The ACA is Wal-Mart in Hospital form.

The flyovers are doomed, jms. Indiana, which is a traditionally great state for health care, just signed its death wish and increased MM payouts by $400,000 per case.

ACA was never about "guaranteed renewable". It was about the expansion of the Federal government and their ongoing manipulation of the population.

And attorneys. Can't let them slide if you're gonna throw Insurance CEO's under the bus. The sharks pushed this turd with gusto.

[Pants II]

Career military or federal employee are the best options for our youth.

Can't be repealed fast enough.

[Danzig]

Yeah, this insurance stuff....just horrible.
I mean, just my hospital bill for end of may was over 16k. Surgeon, anesthesia, etc will be separate.
After the lousy united health care payment and contractual adjustment, i have to pay $553 total. 1/32nd of the bill.
Those bastards.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Yeah, this insurance stuff....just horrible.
I mean, just my hospital bill for end of may was over 16k. Surgeon, anesthesia, etc will be separate.
After the lousy united health care payment and contractual adjustment, i have to pay $553 total. 1/32nd of the bill.
Those bastards.

One of my hospital bills for surgery last Nov was $42K...medicare and BCBS paid all but $1200 and i am applying for medicaid on that...I want some free stuff too

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Yeah, this insurance stuff....just horrible.
I mean, just my hospital bill for end of may was over 16k. Surgeon, anesthesia, etc will be separate.
After the lousy united health care payment and contractual adjustment, i have to pay $553 total. 1/32nd of the bill.
Those bastards.

One of my hospital bills for surgery last Nov was $42K...medicare and BCBS paid all but $1200 and i am applying for medicaid on that...I want some free stuff too

[Crown@club]

For the condescending:
My monthly insurance went from $625/mo for my family to over $1100/mo with a $10,000 deductible having no claims at all!

Having to change over to a policy now costing $780 a month and I swear the only difference is slimming down the hospital/physicians in the network.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

For the condescending:
My monthly insurance went from $625/mo for my family to over $1100/mo with a $10,000 deductible having no claims at all!

Having to change over to a policy now costing $780 a month and I swear the only difference is slimming down the hospital/physicians in the network.

The 2 posters bragging about how terrific it is are the takers that don't put anything into the system. Rather than questioning why a Hospital charged Obamacare 16K for a procedure, they smugly scoff about how they "made out" while you bear the brunt of their costs.

It will be refreshing when the Insurance Lobbies don't have the White House in their back pocket and the Insurance Companies will actually have to "compete" for business, thus lower health care costs.

Doubly refreshing when it will take an orange-skinned misogynist with no ties to, thus owing no favors to the insurance industry, to make it happen.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

The 2 posters bragging about how terrific it is are the takers that don't put anything into the system. Rather than questioning why a Hospital charged Obamacare 16K for a procedure, they smugly scoff about how they "made out" while you bear the brunt of their costs.

It will be refreshing when the Insurance Lobbies don't have the White House in their back pocket and the Insurance Companies will actually have to "compete" for business, thus lower health care costs.

Doubly refreshing when it will take an orange-skinned misogynist with no ties to, thus owing no favors to the insurance industry, to make it happen.

What does the statement I highlighted mean?