2015: American Pharoah becomes 12th Triple Crown winner

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by tywizard

With the possible exception of Dortmund and Mr. Z, I'm guessing you get better odds on all of these horses on Derby Day.

There are 19 listed entries and two shouldn't even be listed (imperia and Ocean Knight)...Even if I make the 20th horse 99-1 this still comes to 143%.

You're right. That line sucks.

Originally Posted by alysheba4

I like 14-1 with Frosted.

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

14/1 on Firing Line is interesting, he feels like one of the top 4.

Both Frosted and Firing Line are available at 20-1 at 5Dimes.

--Dunbar

[tywizard]

Frosted at 20-1 might be a good price. I expect he becomes a bit of a wise guy horse over the next two weeks.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

You're right. That line sucks.





Both Frosted and Firing Line are available at 20-1 at 5Dimes.

--Dunbar

Unbelievable that you can get 20-1 on a horse that barely lost to one of the big early favorites (Dortmund) the last two times they faced off. Firing Line has every right to turn the tables, too.

[Dunbar]

Here's a list of Derby odds taken from just 2 offshore books: Just 4 are from Bookmaker.com. The rest are from 5Dimes.

This line's odds add to 111%, which is equivalent to a 10% takeout. Considering that it includes about 7 also-eligibles, that's a pretty remarkable number.

AMERICANPHAROAH.. 3.05 --Bookmaker
DORTMUND.. 5
CARPEDIEM.. 10
MUBTAAHIJ.. 12
MATERIALITY.. 14.15 --Bookmaker
FROSTED.. 20
FIRINGLINE.. 20
UPSTART.. 25
INTERNATIONALSTAR.. 25
EL KABEIR.. 40
BOLO.. 50
FARRIGHT.. 50
WARSTORY.. 50
OCHO OCHO OCHO 50
DANZIGMOON.. 50
ONELUCKYDANE.. 50
ITSAKNOCKOUT.. 60.5 --Bookmaker
TENCENDUR.. 60.5 --Bookmaker
Keen Ice.. 66
Madefromlucky.. 66
STANFORD.. 66
Bold Conquest.. 66
Mr. Z.. 66
Frammento.. 66
Metaboss.. 100
Firespike.. 100
ToastingMaster.. 100


Toasting Master? Not sure why he's in this list, but if you discount his chance of making the starting gate, the takeout is 9%.


--Dunbar

[Danzig]

Intl star sweeps la and is 25.1. Hed be worth a few bucks

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Intl star sweeps la and is 25.1. Hed be worth a few bucks

They got me with Fresian Fire. Fool me twice shame on me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

They got me with Fresian Fire. Fool me twice shame on me.

[Kitan]

Wasn't Friesan Fire coming off a 7 week layoff?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by jms62

They got me with Fresian Fire. Fool me twice shame on me.

I think FF had tremendous physical issues though.