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The work shows it all though, there is really not debate here. |
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![]() I'll say this, no one can post pictures or quizzes like him, I really appreciate the effort on his part, but I seriously doubt anyone in the biz would read his post and still blame Garcia for losing the race to Zenyatta, or atleast with a straight face.
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![]() A replay would be far better, don't you think?
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![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-fJpTGaPH8
A better view, now if Doug wants to assert that St. Trinians would have been better off to follow 60-1 shot Will O Way or the inferior Zardana to save ground AND lose 1st run (a point he made was to her advantage) on Zenyatta. Then I concede, he has a point, however no sane handicapper watching the replay would advise a jockey to follow a 60-1 shot or a fading Zardana. The fact is St Trinians was in a position to win, a tribute to her Jockey and was full of run at the wire running 11 and change the final 1/8th, to blame the rider is simply silly and a grasp IMO while not recognizing a horse that was able to outfinish her. |
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Then again, you still think that Interactif is better than PoP. ![]() |
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![]() Good one Sighty!
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You need to be locked in a room and forced to watch ten thousand races. The final margin was just a head. You make it sound like Zenyatta won by 3 Something as simple as a clean break by St. Trinians would have made the difference. Saving some ground into the 1st turn would have also helped. Rosario's ROI is what it is because he rarely loses when he's on the horse who runs the better race .. and he steals a few wins here and there in races where he's not on the best horse. Garcia is just your average top circuit jockey. Other than the very poor start and going 5 wide on the 1st turn while starting from post 2 - and getting hung up 4 to 5 wide the entire way around the far turn ... he did absolutely nothing wrong. Picture perfect. |
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![]() how would a tardy break at all hinder zenyatta? i think the break would have differing affects when you consider a horses running style. it never seemed to hurt evening attire, who could never be accused of being a good breaker. but a bad break was considered to have been very costly to war emblem in the belmont, just to use as an example.
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As for the difference between racing on the rail through the 1st turn and racing 4 wide the entire way around the 1st turn .... here's the Hollywood Gold Cup. Watch where Awesome Gem is in the first turn - and watch where Rail Trip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1DnIXRok4 But hey, the Hollywood Gold Cup only proves that Bejarano rode a perfect race on Rail Trip... after all, he had him "in a position to win" and that is "a tribute to the jockey" |
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![]() i know she's no war emblem, i said it was an example. i guess i will have to go elsewhere for help, you seem to be more interested in polemics than instruction anyway.
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Obviously not. |
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![]() St. Trinians has very good natural speed ... she was pressing the pace from about a neck back going 7fs in an alw sprint she won by 7 lengths in her 2nd start in America.
That's why she was supposed to be a big match-up problem for Zenyatta ... because, unlike a Life Is Sweet .. she could get early separation and a nice big cushion on Zenyatta .. and unlike an Anabaa's Creation, she can finish hard. |
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![]() Eristic would suffice, I hate big words.
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![]() Missing the point award.
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