Verbal Abuse of Calvin Borel

[Siena 16]

The verbal abuse Calvin Borel received walking back through the crowd to the jocks room after "Rachel" was defeated is simply an embarrassment to Saratoga Race Course and is an example of uneducated racing fans who follow this great game for 40 Days and couldn't tell you when the Belmont Fall meet opens. The great part of the Saratoga experience is the access and freedom fans have to horses, trainers, jockeys and other personalities throughout the horse industry. And five or ten idiots had to finish a great racing weekend by telling Calvin Borel what he should or shouldn't have done

LEARN THE GAME BEFORE YOU SPEAK!

Stop yelling at me!

[randallscott35]

Puhleeze. See what they say at AQ in November...this is NY. Calvin is a big boy.

[Siena 16]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Puhleeze. See what they say at AQ in November...this is NY. Calvin is a big boy.

I can tell you never been to Aqueduct, you can't see a jockey with a telescope let alone verbally abuse one after a race

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

I can tell you never been to Aqueduct, you can't see a jockey with a telescope let alone verbally abuse one after a race

I wish this were true.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He rode a flawless race. It would have been silly for him to try and rate back - and then come outside of Life At Ten. He did everything he could to discourage Velazquez and force him into grabbing a hold and taking Life At Ten back.

It was a match race... and he won the match race over a horse whos an undefeated Grade 1 winner this year by double digit lengths.

Johnny V. on the other hand - he probably wishes he took hold right now. Being drawn outside, he was the one with options.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It was a match race... and he won the match race over a horse whos an undefeated Grade 1 winner this year by double digit lengths.

'An undefeated G1 winner' with pretty slow Rag numbers


Somehow I don't think this moral victory is making Borel (or Asmussen) feel any better tonight…

[eajinabi]

Its one of those situations where you are damned if you do and damned if you dont. I really dont blame either riders for what they did.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Its one of those situations where you are damned if you do and damned if you dont. I really dont blame either riders for what they did.

The connections of Life At Ten had nothing to lose. She's already a Grade 1 winner.

If she takes back and avoids the duel - than RA gets to set her own pace unpressured - and they run 2nd to her.

They sent hard hoping Borel would back down and let them have an easy lead.

Running 2nd beaten 4 lengths instead of 3rd by 11.5 lengths is no great win.

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The verbal abuse Calvin Borel received walking back through the crowd to the jocks room after "Rachel" was defeated is simply an embarrassment to Saratoga Race Course and is an example of uneducated racing fans who follow this great game for 40 Days and couldn't tell you when the Belmont Fall meet opens. The great part of the Saratoga experience is the access and freedom fans have to horses, trainers, jockeys and other personalities throughout the horse industry. And five or ten idiots had to finish a great racing weekend by telling Calvin Borel what he should or shouldn't have done

LEARN THE GAME BEFORE YOU SPEAK!

Happens to me everyday as I leave HP after calling the races. Passionate game. Fan is short for fanatic. As long as it's not vulgar or personal( Big A exempt) I say If you buy a ticket on a horse you buy the right to complain about the ride. Calvin's a big boy. Chillax.

[Siena 16]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Happens to me everyday as I leave HP after calling the races. Passionate game. Fan is short for fanatic. As long as it's not vulgar or personal( Big A exempt) I say If you buy a ticket on a horse you buy the right to complain about the ride. Calvin's a big boy. Chillax.

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

Who cares?

Like everyone said.. not the first or last time he'll hear those words.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

So a jock that thinks nothing of floating his competitor significantly wide, so that he can gain an advantage, should be immune from getting it stuck up his ass when his tactics fail?

I realize most would consider this race riding and perfectly acceptable.

I'm not exactly a Borel or RA fan, so, let's say the ending was pretty sweet all around. Borel is the typical bully when he has the advantage (as are most). He can dish it out and he should be able to take it.

F u ck him. He looks real pretty when he styles but when it comes to crunch time he can't do what some of the great ones could: help their horse get to the wire.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

The bottom line is that this is a free country and people can say what they want. Losing money and drinking don't help folks act with class and dignity.

CB knows these truths and chose a public job that is open to scrutiny. He could have chosen another profession.

Stop crying a river for him.

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[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

So a jock that thinks nothing of floating his competitor significantly wide, so that he can gain an advantage, should be immune from getting it stuck up his ass when his tactics fail?

I realize most would consider this race riding and perfectly acceptable.

I'm not exactly a Borel or RA fan, so, let's say the ending was pretty sweet all around. Borel is the typical bully when he has the advantage (as are most). He can dish it out and he should be able to take it.

F u ck him. He looks real pretty when he styles but when it comes to crunch time he can't do what some of the great ones could: help their horse get to the wire.

Last I checked, Borel didn't say anything about fan treatment or comments. I'd say you are the harsh one.

And, for that matter, winning America's most prestigious race three out of four years, an unrivaled accomplishment in this country, oh - and being a half-decent guy, trumps some of your completely unsubstantiated generalities.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Last I checked, Borel didn't say anything about fan treatment or comments. I'd say you are the harsh one.

And, for that matter, winning America's most prestigious race three out of four years, an unrivaled accomplishment in this country, oh - and being a half-decent guy, trumps some of your completely unsubstantiated generalities.

Another one with interpretation issues.

Borel likes to style, 'race ride', and celebrate excessively. He got it stuck up his ass yesterday. Having lost plenty of times as a result of one of those rail skimming rides of his, and having to watch him with the fist pumping and kiss blowing, YES, I got some pleasure out of watching him get run down yesterday. Never wrote anything about Borel complaining. Just about how enjoyable it was to me.

He's jut a PUNK. He doesn't add anything to a horse. He certainly can't finish, even up, with any of the better jocks in the country. He's real good at those cute moves, however.

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

Sounds like a normal pizza and a movie night at my house.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Sounds like a normal pizza and a movie night at my house.

I didn't realize you were married to Stone Gossard.

[Indian Charlie]

Come to think of it, things now make sense with you two.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by Siena 16

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

......you should have been at belmont when smarty jones got beat.