Another glorious win for the homo-phobes?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Another one of those Gay marriage ballot initatives is getting tea bagged in Maine of all places... down slightly with more than half reporting.

The queers are a lot like the Atlanta Falcons ... filthy in their own home but can't win anywhere on the road except in San Francisco.

At least they aren't the Browns I guess. The bye week has opened up as a 5 point favorite against the Browns.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Another one of those Gay marriage ballot initatives is getting tea bagged in Maine of all places... down slightly with more than half reporting.

The queers are a lot like the Atlanta Falcons ... filthy in their own home but can't win anywhere on the road except in San Francisco.

At least they aren't the Browns I guess. The bye week has opened up as a 5 point favorite against the Browns.

Yea, imagine that. When they let straight people vote on whether gay people can do something, they vote against it. Shocking.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Wow. The offical sign is almost up.

They're now 0-for-31.

[brianwspencer]

And it's no less disgusting and pitiful the 31st time than it was the 1st.

[randallscott35]

Why anyone cares whether or not gays can marry is beyond me?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Why anyone cares whether or not gays can marry is beyond me?

I assume you mean heterosexuals -- because I can certainly think of a few:

http://www.sovo.com/thelatest/thelat...?blog_id=27418

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Why anyone cares whether or not gays can marry is beyond me?

[dellinger63]

I'd like to see the breakdown in vote by age. I suspect in a few more years when a bunch more old people and their votes die this will get done.

It's the black churches who push it.

Wait...there aren't any black people in Maine. Nvmd.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'd like to see the breakdown in vote by age. I suspect in a few more years when a bunch more old people and their votes die this will get done.

There's no doubt about it. Everybody who's going to be on the winning side of history already knows that.

It doesn't make it any more terrible every time it happens, though, knowing that eventually, we will win.

The fact that you can even put civil rights up to a vote is bewildering to this day.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Why anyone cares whether or not gays can marry is beyond me?

exactly! why some are so intent on preventing rights to some of us is beyond me as well.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

exactly! why some are so intent on preventing rights to some of us is beyond me as well.

it really amounts to nothing more than ignorance in most cases IMO and not hate. A irrational fear that acceptance of gay marriage and to a larger extent gay lifestyle will somehow influence their children/grandchildren to magically transform into tippy-toe florists or a truck driving bulls.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

it really amounts to nothing more than ignorance in most cases IMO and not hate. A irrational fear that acceptance of gay marriage and to a larger extent gay lifestyle will somehow influence their children/grandchildren to magically transform into tippy-toe florists or a truck driving bulls.

Well that's at least a good fear, since step #6 on today's Gay Agenda is to steal Danzig's wonderful daughter and turn her into a lesbian witch by sending her to a reorientation camp.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well that's at least a good fear, since step #6 on today's Gay Agenda is to steal Danzig's wonderful daughter and turn her into a lesbian witch by sending her to a reorientation camp.

lol

i'd pay money to see someone attempt to change kelly's mind on anything.

[joeydb]

Since this is a horse racing forum, was there any ballot initiative on whether it would be legal to breed two stallions to each other, or would that get reactions like

"Why would you do that?"
"That won't produce any offspring, genius"
"Isn't that cruelty to animals?"

On a more serious note...

Where the people supporting changing marriage rules can legitimately win is by taking the power to make, validate, recognize and dissolve marriages away from the government. Make it only a religious or independent social phenomenon.

Instead I think some desire to make this an implicit validation of their lifestyle by the government, which is not something the majority currently agrees with.

There's no reason the government has to recognize marriages. Currently, it's really only done with determining who can testify against you in court or determining income tax rates.

Strangely, many conservatives like the idea of limiting the government's power so a move like this might spark some alliances not seen before.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Since this is a horse racing forum, was there any ballot initiative on whether it would be legal to breed two stallions to each other, or would that get reactions like

"Why would you do that?"
"That won't produce any offspring, genius"
"Isn't that cruelty to animals?"

On a more serious note...

Where the people supporting changing marriage rules can legitimately win is by taking the power to make, validate, recognize and dissolve marriages away from the government. Make it only a religious or independent social phenomenon.

Instead I think some desire to make this an implicit validation of their lifestyle by the government, which is not something the majority currently agrees with.

There's no reason the government has to recognize marriages. Currently, it's really only done with determining who can testify against you in court or determining income tax rates.

Strangely, many conservatives like the idea of limiting the government's power so a move like this might spark some alliances not seen before.

But since that is almost certainly not going to happen, why shouldn't people who are homosexual attempt to force the existing system to include them?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol

i'd pay money to see someone attempt to change kelly's mind on anything.

Hey, she seemed to like me quite a bit. Perhaps I could parlay that friendship into something more sinister to do my share of the Agenda's work for the day.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Since this is a horse racing forum, was there any ballot initiative on whether it would be legal to breed two stallions to each other, or would that get reactions like

"Why would you do that?"
"That won't produce any offspring, genius"
"Isn't that cruelty to animals?"

On a more serious note...

Where the people supporting changing marriage rules can legitimately win is by taking the power to make, validate, recognize and dissolve marriages away from the government. Make it only a religious or independent social phenomenon.

Instead I think some desire to make this an implicit validation of their lifestyle by the government, which is not something the majority currently agrees with.

There's no reason the government has to recognize marriages. Currently, it's really only done with determining who can testify against you in court or determining income tax rates.

Strangely, many conservatives like the idea of limiting the government's power so a move like this might spark some alliances not seen before.

If I were homosexual, it would be more about having access to the same benefits, insurance, tax benefits etc as heterosexuals.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Since this is a horse racing forum, was there any ballot initiative on whether it would be legal to breed two stallions to each other, or would that get reactions like

"Why would you do that?"
"That won't produce any offspring, genius"
"Isn't that cruelty to animals?"

On a more serious note...

Where the people supporting changing marriage rules can legitimately win is by taking the power to make, validate, recognize and dissolve marriages away from the government. Make it only a religious or independent social phenomenon.

Instead I think some desire to make this an implicit validation of their lifestyle by the government, which is not something the majority currently agrees with.

There's no reason the government has to recognize marriages. Currently, it's really only done with determining who can testify against you in court or determining income tax rates.

Strangely, many conservatives like the idea of limiting the government's power so a move like this might spark some alliances not seen before.

I don't totally disagree with this, to be perfectly honest.

But in the meantime, the government confers a whole host of rights upon people who are married civilly. Nobody cares if X church down the street won't marry them, they care that the government recognizes the union and gives the same benefits. Read the link I posted above -- everyone likes to say that "oh they can just go get documents to do the same thing," and it's simply not true, because a hospital can keep someone away from their DYING PARTNER and that surviving partner has NO legal recourse at all. Try doing that to a married couple and see what happens.

And the bigger problem is that those who oppose gay marriage ENJOY the rights they get from marriage. No way in a million years are they going to choose to give them up. They like the automatic tax breaks, they like the automatic hospital visits, they like the benefits of marriage that the government gives them. Which makes the whole thing even more disgusting. Either let people in, or get the government out of civil marriage. Go down to the church, get yourself married, and have the government say "big f***ing deal, you still need documents to see your dying spouse...and maybe you can't even see her then," and see how much those opposed to gay marriage all the sudden care about "civil" marriage. The religious argument against "civil marraige" is utter BS.

And people wonder why they get called haters...and act all offended by it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

If I were homosexual, it would be more about having access to the same benefits, insurance, tax benefits etc as heterosexuals.

bingo!