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Old 05-07-2009, 06:12 PM
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Iknow this isnt the way its done but just think about it? Have any the wners of the top mares( Rachel and Zenyata) ever put a fee for the mateing? Couldnt this inhance the value of the stud for future use or is this 3 year waiting period to see thefinished product on the track negate any increase in value of the stud fee?
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:29 PM
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The mare owner keeps the foal so he or she PAYS for the stallions service. Why would a stallion manager/owner give away what they can sell for alot of money.

Some operations to "foal share" deals which can and do take many forms. The owner of Rags To Riches or or Rachel or any top mare must pay a fee to the stallion owner to get a foal from her.
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:30 PM
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Iknow this isnt the way its done but just think about it? Have any the wners of the top mares( Rachel and Zenyata) ever put a fee for the mateing? Couldnt this inhance the value of the stud for future use or is this 3 year waiting period to see thefinished product on the track negate any increase in value of the stud fee?

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Old 05-07-2009, 06:32 PM
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The mare owner keeps the foal so he or she PAYS for the stallions service. Why would a stallion manager/owner give away what they can sell for alot of money.

Some operations to "foal share" deals which can and do take many forms. The owner of Rags To Riches or or Rachel or any top mare must pay a fee to the stallion owner to get a foal from her.
The owner of Rags bred her to his stallion...Rachel is being bred to Curlin his owners stallion.
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Old 05-07-2009, 06:36 PM
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Iknow this isnt the way its done but just think about it? Have any the wners of the top mares( Rachel and Zenyata) ever put a fee for the mateing? Couldnt this inhance the value of the stud for future use or is this 3 year waiting period to see thefinished product on the track negate any increase in value of the stud fee?
Only if they are very hot looking mares
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:48 PM
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The owner of Rags bred her to his stallion...Rachel is being bred to Curlin his owners stallion.

I realize that but if they went "outside" the'd PAY for the cover. No stallion owner is going to pay for the privilege of having his stallion cover any mare, even to very good one.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:53 PM
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I realize that but if they went "outside" the'd PAY for the cover. No stallion owner is going to pay for the privilege of having his stallion cover any mare, even to very good one.
I am well aware..Stud fees are under incredible pressur.this is a real buyers market
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Old 05-07-2009, 08:21 PM
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Some "lesser" stallions such as regional or stallions that aren't your top commerical stallions will give a free breeding to Mares that are black typed or black typed producers....its not unheard of for Farms to give away free breedings to quality mares
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Old 05-08-2009, 06:50 AM
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I am not sure how involved in the breeding business any of you are, but if they wanted to breed RA to anyone in the world, all they would have to do is call and ask. The farm would just require that they could advertise that RA was in the stallion's book. The foal would also likely be a sale topper or atleast a day topper. That would give additional promotional material.

Deals are made everyday, even on the AP Indy's of the world.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:24 AM
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I am not sure how involved in the breeding business any of you are, but if they wanted to breed RA to anyone in the world, all they would have to do is call and ask. The farm would just require that they could advertise that RA was in the stallion's book. The foal would also likely be a sale topper or atleast a day topper. That would give additional promotional material.

Deals are made everyday, even on the AP Indy's of the world.

exactly... deals are always happening in the Breeding Business.
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