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jpops757 05-07-2009 06:12 PM

stud fees
 
Iknow this isnt the way its done but just think about it? Have any the wners of the top mares( Rachel and Zenyata) ever put a fee for the mateing? Couldnt this inhance the value of the stud for future use or is this 3 year waiting period to see thefinished product on the track negate any increase in value of the stud fee?

Linny 05-07-2009 06:29 PM

The mare owner keeps the foal so he or she PAYS for the stallions service. Why would a stallion manager/owner give away what they can sell for alot of money.

Some operations to "foal share" deals which can and do take many forms. The owner of Rags To Riches or or Rachel or any top mare must pay a fee to the stallion owner to get a foal from her.

freddymo 05-07-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
Iknow this isnt the way its done but just think about it? Have any the wners of the top mares( Rachel and Zenyata) ever put a fee for the mateing? Couldnt this inhance the value of the stud for future use or is this 3 year waiting period to see thefinished product on the track negate any increase in value of the stud fee?


oh boy

freddymo 05-07-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
The mare owner keeps the foal so he or she PAYS for the stallions service. Why would a stallion manager/owner give away what they can sell for alot of money.

Some operations to "foal share" deals which can and do take many forms. The owner of Rags To Riches or or Rachel or any top mare must pay a fee to the stallion owner to get a foal from her.

The owner of Rags bred her to his stallion...Rachel is being bred to Curlin his owners stallion.

freddymo 05-07-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpops757
Iknow this isnt the way its done but just think about it? Have any the wners of the top mares( Rachel and Zenyata) ever put a fee for the mateing? Couldnt this inhance the value of the stud for future use or is this 3 year waiting period to see thefinished product on the track negate any increase in value of the stud fee?

Only if they are very hot looking mares

Linny 05-07-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
The owner of Rags bred her to his stallion...Rachel is being bred to Curlin his owners stallion.


I realize that but if they went "outside" the'd PAY for the cover. No stallion owner is going to pay for the privilege of having his stallion cover any mare, even to very good one.

freddymo 05-07-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
I realize that but if they went "outside" the'd PAY for the cover. No stallion owner is going to pay for the privilege of having his stallion cover any mare, even to very good one.

I am well aware..Stud fees are under incredible pressur.this is a real buyers market

Habersham000 05-07-2009 08:21 PM

Some "lesser" stallions such as regional or stallions that aren't your top commerical stallions will give a free breeding to Mares that are black typed or black typed producers....its not unheard of for Farms to give away free breedings to quality mares

Thoroughbred Fan 05-08-2009 06:50 AM

I am not sure how involved in the breeding business any of you are, but if they wanted to breed RA to anyone in the world, all they would have to do is call and ask. The farm would just require that they could advertise that RA was in the stallion's book. The foal would also likely be a sale topper or atleast a day topper. That would give additional promotional material.

Deals are made everyday, even on the AP Indy's of the world.

Antitrust32 05-08-2009 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan
I am not sure how involved in the breeding business any of you are, but if they wanted to breed RA to anyone in the world, all they would have to do is call and ask. The farm would just require that they could advertise that RA was in the stallion's book. The foal would also likely be a sale topper or atleast a day topper. That would give additional promotional material.

Deals are made everyday, even on the AP Indy's of the world.


exactly... deals are always happening in the Breeding Business.


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