Where's the Scat Daddy Thread?

Buffymommy · #1 11-08-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

its on now....and yes scat daddy isnt that great...

Your funny hooves! And yes, Scat Daddy isn't that great and I agree with Pillow Pants, no way is he around for the derby.

#2 11-08-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Your funny hooves! And yes, Scat Daddy isn't that great and I agree with Pillow Pants, no way is he around for the derby.

Sure he will be around for the Derby (unless he gets hurt). Look who owns him--you think they are going to pass the Derby. They already have enough graded earnings. Pletcher and Tabor have two big of egos not to run this horse in the Derby. If he is healthy, he is running.

SniperSB23 · #3 11-08-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

Sure he will be around for the Derby (unless he gets hurt). Look who owns him--you think they are going to pass the Derby. They already have enough graded earnings. Pletcher and Tabor have two big of egos not to run this horse in the Derby. If he is healthy, he is running.

BTW, I think the earnings picture is going to be very interesting for the Derby next year. With the BC Juvenile purse being $2 million it puts the top four in. Now the Delta Jackpot is a G3 so that $1 million race will get 2-3 horses in. The Blue Grass could put some unexpected horses in the race if turfy 3yos point there. Not to mention that any of the top three fillies from the BC Juv Fillies would have enough earnings if they wanted to run (God I hope not). I have a feeling we could see a horse with right around $200,000 in graded stakes earnings get shut out of the field this year.

#4 11-08-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

BTW, I think the earnings picture is going to be very interesting for the Derby next year. With the BC Juvenile purse being $2 million it puts the top four in. Now the Delta Jackpot is a G3 so that $1 million race will get 2-3 horses in. The Blue Grass could put some unexpected horses in the race if turfy 3yos point there. Not to mention that any of the top three fillies from the BC Juv Fillies would have enough earnings if they wanted to run (God I hope not). I have a feeling we could see a horse with right around $200,000 in graded stakes earnings get shut out of the field this year.

I couldnt agree more. The Delta Jackpot being a Graded Race is HUGE. I will be real interested to see if that race produces any Derby horses. I love that it finally got a Graded status. I also will be wondering what major trainers are going to put their 2nd string in that race.

blackthroatedwind · #5 11-08-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

BTW, I think the earnings picture is going to be very interesting for the Derby next year. With the BC Juvenile purse being $2 million it puts the top four in. Now the Delta Jackpot is a G3 so that $1 million race will get 2-3 horses in. The Blue Grass could put some unexpected horses in the race if turfy 3yos point there. Not to mention that any of the top three fillies from the BC Juv Fillies would have enough earnings if they wanted to run (God I hope not). I have a feeling we could see a horse with right around $200,000 in graded stakes earnings get shut out of the field this year.

That is interesting.

Good thing for John Ward he doesn't have any TC contendors this year.

paisjpq · #6 11-08-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

BTW, I think the earnings picture is going to be very interesting for the Derby next year. With the BC Juvenile purse being $2 million it puts the top four in. Now the Delta Jackpot is a G3 so that $1 million race will get 2-3 horses in. The Blue Grass could put some unexpected horses in the race if turfy 3yos point there. Not to mention that any of the top three fillies from the BC Juv Fillies would have enough earnings if they wanted to run (God I hope not). I have a feeling we could see a horse with right around $200,000 in graded stakes earnings get shut out of the field this year.

am I the only one who thinks that the graded earnings during the 3YO season should be weighted to count more than the 2YO earnings? Seems like what they did the year before is not always indicative of who should be in the race on the 1st Saturday in May.

SniperSB23 · #7 11-08-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

am I the only one who thinks that the graded earnings during the 3YO season should be weighted to count more than the 2YO earnings? Seems like what they did the year before is not always indicative of who should be in the race on the 1st Saturday in May.

Totally, I think a points system would be way more effective. Why should the Delta Jackpot be worth more than the Wood Memorial? It is a ridiculous system.

ArlJim78 · #8 11-08-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

am I the only one who thinks that the graded earnings during the 3YO season should be weighted to count more than the 2YO earnings? Seems like what they did the year before is not always indicative of who should be in the race on the 1st Saturday in May.

absolutely, it would help prevent horses getting in that don't belong and it would help to keep quality late bloomers in the mix. I don't know what the formula should be but that can be worked out.

#9 11-08-2006, 10:35 AM

I dont know how a point system should work. Do you get 1 pt for a grade III, 2 pts for a Grade II and 1 pt for a Grade I victory. Then why do you do with the races that pay down to the 5th, 6th, 7th etc etc place? I like the earnings and I think it works perfectly. You have to run to get in. And it is looking like you need to run more and more to get a spot.

#10 11-08-2006, 10:38 AM

I think that money earned in grass races shouldnt count towards the earnings used to determine Derby Contenders.
I also think that a scale where grade one earnings count more than grade two which count more than grade 3's should apply as well.
Its completely illogical for the Delta jackpot earnings to count as much as the Wood memorial.
Its a system that needs revising and progressive moves.

SniperSB23 · #11 11-08-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

I dont know how a point system should work. Do you get 1 pt for a grade III, 2 pts for a Grade II and 1 pt for a Grade I victory. Then why do you do with the races that pay down to the 5th, 6th, 7th etc etc place? I like the earnings and I think it works perfectly. You have to run to get in. And it is looking like you need to run more and more to get a spot.

They could work something out, points for the top five in each race with G1s counting more than G2, counting more than G3s, counting more than ungraded stakes. Routes counting more than sprints, 3yo races counting more than 2yo races. It wouldn't be that difficult.

blackthroatedwind · #12 11-08-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

am I the only one who thinks that the graded earnings during the 3YO season should be weighted to count more than the 2YO earnings? Seems like what they did the year before is not always indicative of who should be in the race on the 1st Saturday in May.

I don't have an answer but something is wrong. I think the BC should be weighed as heavily as 3YO races. Maybe earnings should be capped by Grade or you get different points for finishes depending on Grade.

Something is wrong that's for sure.

Buffymommy · #13 11-08-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

Sure he will be around for the Derby (unless he gets hurt). Look who owns him--you think they are going to pass the Derby. They already have enough graded earnings. Pletcher and Tabor have two big of egos not to run this horse in the Derby. If he is healthy, he is running.

OK maybe I should have said "HE SHOULDN'T BE AROUND FOR THE DERBY"